Hey Fellas, I got an Email from ID Parts yesterday about a special they are running on the Libby timing belt kit. It comes with a GRAF water pump instead on the OE VM Motri one (which is still available) and its considerably cheaper. I did a search in the forums to see if anyone has had any experience with the GRAF but didn't find much. Wold greatly appreciate opinions, experiences etc. Thanks, Tony.

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[color=#FF0000]'06 Inferno Red CRD
Gen 2 Fuel Filter Head
2.5in lift
Schaeffer Supreame 9000 full synthetic oil
Chrome and red TURBO DIESEL badges by SICK SPEED
Muffler Delete
GDE Full Torque Eco Tune.
Timing belt/ water pump/ T Stat done at 104k
Hayden Fan Clutch
Soon to come: Euro TC....

I would like to know also, I saw the same thing and since my timing belt is 8 years old and my warranty just ran out(70K) I was thinking about pulling the trigger on this kit with the GRAF water pump.

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05 CRD Sport, GDE eco tune/GDE TCM/fumoto/Trac Loc/Sony Deck/Polk DB6501 DB651
06 Jetta TDI, DSG

Anything other than Chinese made should be ok as all the reported failures relate to them.

Well from the picture on ID's website it appears high quality. I definitely like the idea of the brass impeller. I found a couple of other forums where there were reported failures of GRAF pumps mostly in BMW's and a few other brands of cars. The pumps that had the failures appear to have had a spot welded impeller.

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[color=#FF0000]'06 Inferno Red CRD
Gen 2 Fuel Filter Head
2.5in lift
Schaeffer Supreame 9000 full synthetic oil
Chrome and red TURBO DIESEL badges by SICK SPEED
Muffler Delete
GDE Full Torque Eco Tune.
Timing belt/ water pump/ T Stat done at 104k
Hayden Fan Clutch
Soon to come: Euro TC....

Someone here put one on...they ordered it from Europe. Don't recall them having any problems.

I just got my kit yesterday. I ordered the Graf one. I doubt ID parts would substitute the water pump from OEM now without doing their homework, since they had the crap Crown ones fail.

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2006 Liberty CRD Limited

Provent @ 43,000 km
SEGR in progress
SAMCO Sport hoses @ 48500 km
Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac LT225/75R16

That assumption is a loooong shoot. businesses will always be that, businesses.

Yes but it's always easier to do business with happy customers and good quality products. That's just good business !!

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05 liberty Sport Black CRD,GDE trans tune, Stant 13519 thermostat , Samco Hoses, Weathertech mats, segr, K &N filter ,2nd gen fuel head, 2.5 inches lift, JBA A-arms, Roof rack,
99 Camaro Silver LS1 heads, loud mouth, fast as hell and just as fun!!!
It was stock when I got it but now It's mine!!
You only love it if you change it!!

Graf is a VERY reputable company and makes high quality products, period.

All the talk aside, mine has been in for 10k and 0 issues.

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Silver 2006 KJ 2.8L CRD Limited:
GDE ECO Tune / Fumoto Valve / E-Tecno GX3123 7v Glow Plugs / 2nd Gen Fuel Head / Mishimoto RED Hoses / Rockers/Lifters @ 114k / Hayden FC + 11 Blade Nylon / Sears P1 Battery / Transgo 45RFE-HD2 Reprogramming Kit / Timken Front Bearings

Yes... I knew someone here had installed one.

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2006 Liberty CRD Limited

Provent @ 43,000 km
SEGR in progress
SAMCO Sport hoses @ 48500 km
Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac LT225/75R16

Thanks for the input fellers, I'll be ordering mine tomorrow. Along with a couple other necessary items such as a T-Stat and hoses.

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[color=#FF0000]'06 Inferno Red CRD
Gen 2 Fuel Filter Head
2.5in lift
Schaeffer Supreame 9000 full synthetic oil
Chrome and red TURBO DIESEL badges by SICK SPEED
Muffler Delete
GDE Full Torque Eco Tune.
Timing belt/ water pump/ T Stat done at 104k
Hayden Fan Clutch
Soon to come: Euro TC....