2002 kj lift ? S

kuntryboy99 · **Joined:** Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:51 pm **Posts:** 27

Tommudd top plate?? Clevis?? And upper isolators?? I'm not real sure what these mean?

tommudd · **Posted:** Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:43 pm

Top plate is a 1/4 inch thick plate that goes on top of the springs/shock assemby to give you 1/2 inch more lift
A clevis lift is when you raise the shock up out of the clevis 3/8 of an inch to give you 3/4 inch more lift. We use 3 per side 2 inch conduit nuts to measure by and keep things equal. each are 1/8 inch thick
isolators are the rubber pads above and below the springs. In the rear we use extra upper ones to give more lift, using two extra per side if you want it to sit level when using the top plate and clevis in front

kuntryboy99 · **Joined:** Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:51 pm **Posts:** 27

I basically have the idea...but r all of the OME parts or? And how come two uppers in rear? Why not a 2.5 bottom spring mount and 1.5 spring? And have u heard of the rock Krawler X Factor strut fork which is 3.5?

tommudd · **Posted:** Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:59 pm

kuntryboy99 wrote:

I basically have the idea...but r all of the OME parts or? And how come two uppers in rear? Why not a 2.5 bottom spring mount and 1.5 spring? And have u heard of the rock Krawler X Factor strut fork which is 3.5?

FORGET you ever heard of the Rock Krawler strut fork piece of junk
The OME and Ironman springs once again do not give you only 1.5 inches of lift they give you more like 2.5 so adding some junk spacer style lift would give you over 5 inches of lift, plus lots of issues
Do not ever try mixing spacer style parts in with a full spring kit, only creates a lawn ornament .
When certain parts are mentioned together it is because they work and work well. They have been tested over millions of miles on 1000s of KJs . My first OME lift lasted 100,000 miles, second one over 55,000 miles and only was removed to test the ironman springs out and then go to the adjustable coilover lift .
I've been involved in over 30 KJ lifts with over 23-24 done in my garage each one with basically the same parts so the combination of parts work great. We wouldn't do it if they didn't. Its also how the JeepinByAl Tommudd Econo kit came to be so people would not have to look around for the various parts needed

kuntryboy99 · **Joined:** Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:51 pm **Posts:** 27

Dang this is complicated...lol...I just wanna lift the old girl up. I just don't want a pune lift that looks small but I don't want huge..between 3 and 4 so I can run 265 70 16 and have some space still between the tire n fender. I don't wanna do a spacer lift with new factory struts in front which was my first choice before I started reading here. And I don't wanna chop my inner fenders all to hell in the front lol. Sorry if I seem to be repeating myself the choices just seem many...... At least I have the experienced guiding me before I make a mistake...I'm very mechanically inclined I have lowered and raised vehicles before just need the goods.

tommudd · **Posted:** Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:54 pm

Not really that many good choices
and 3.25-3.5 inches of lift looks great with 265-70s

kuntryboy99 · **Joined:** Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:51 pm **Posts:** 27

What about the rockfather lift? Opinions?

tommudd · **Posted:** Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:21 pm

want junk buy junk, RRO does not always sell what they advertise, their UCAs are cheap copies of JBAs
want a good lift then jeepinbyal or http://www.boulderbars.com for the Frankenlift ( but with it you'll also need JBAs UCAs right away as well )

Also no to Rustys Off Road or Skyjacker both of their spring rates are same as stock and will sag
then you'll next find BDS, and by the time you get good rear shocks and front shocks added in its the same price or more than OME or Ironman
Keep looking and running down the list and you'll keep getting sent back to the same two places :wink:

2004BLKKJ · **Posted:** Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:48 pm

I have the OME lift with upper a arms. The lift kit advertises 1.5 inch of lift but I had 3 inches of lift right after install. Today, 5,000 miles later, I am at about 2 or 2.5 inches of lift which is where it will likely stay for a longggggg time. I run 31x10.5x15 tires which I believe are a tad smaller than 265/75/16 but a tad larger than 245/75/16. (correct me if i'm wrong) I would not wish to run larger tires than this for 2 reason: one, it still drives well with stock gears though it is noticeable slower; two, i rub as is with a good amount of trimming so a larger tire would only require more. just my $.02

streetglideok · **Posted:** Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:54 am

This is how mine sat after installing Ironman springs, and OME shocks only. The front did sit a little lower and I've since performed the clevis lift and 1/4" top plate. I'm running 30x9.5 tires with some rubbing of the inner fender by where the pinch weld is. That's the downfall of 4" offset wheels on 15" rims.

samse2101 · **Posted:** Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:13 pm

by the way:

@ tommudd:

do you know some spring rates? Or where can i get some for comparison?

These i´ve found these spring rates until now in the net:

OME 925 Light Load: 350 lbs
OME 926 Medium Load: 375 lbs
OME 927 Heavy Load / CRD Medium: 400 lbs
OME 790 CRD Heavy Load: 500 lbs

Stock/Rustys: 310 lbs
Stock CRD: 410 lbs

Rough Country???
CRDSTU???
IRONMAN???
Skyjacker???
BDS or 4WheelDriveHardware (i know,they both are the same)...

by,
samse

tommudd · **Posted:** Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:46 pm

samse2101 wrote:

by the way:

@ tommudd:

do you know some spring rates? Or where can i get some for comparison?

These i´ve found these spring rates until now in the net:

OME 925 Light Load: 350 lbs
OME 926 Medium Load: 375 lbs
OME 927 Heavy Load / CRD Medium: 400 lbs
OME 790 CRD Heavy Load: 500 lbs

Stock/Rustys: 310 lbs
Stock CRD: 410 lbs

Rough Country??? Rough Country does not have springs available
CRDSTU??? depends on which ones but close to OMEs( not available in the US yet )
IRONMAN??? again depends on which ones but close to OME specs
Skyjacker???310 lb
BDS or 4WheelDriveHardware (I know,they both are the same)...they were 425-435 or what was told several years ago Haven't updated my info lately

by,
samse

Help some ?

samse2101 · **Posted:** Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:52 pm

Yeah, helped a lot... :wink:

RC: whats about this lift kit -> http://www.roughcountry.com/jeep-suspen ... 92-20.html

or are the front springs only important?

by,
samse

tommudd · **Posted:** Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:49 pm

samse2101 wrote:

Yeah, helped a lot... :wink:

RC: whats about this lift kit -> http://www.roughcountry.com/jeep-suspen ... 92-20.html

or are the front springs only important?

by,
samse

Yes they provide rear springs but very weak and sag in no time from reports, of course the front uses stock and that gosh awful spacer

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