Rock lizard in business??

Jeepologist · **Joined:** Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:49 pm **Posts:** 30

tommudd wrote:

I have tried to stay away from this " discussion"
But for some reason some keep trying to drag me and some others in and not sure why?
I mean because I made a phone call for a friend at a Meet and Greet and had them talk directly to RL regarding a set of rock rails this is now a bad thing or that I have some sort of mystical powers? This was what 4-5 years ago ? I have also made calls to JBA and BDS to either get information or make an order easier to help friends I have met online. Yes I have friends at these places that I can call and get info, but I have no influence over them or the way they do business so why would one ask for me to do something about their business ? That confuses me.
If you have an issue with a business you deal with them, not try and get others to do it for you.
Throwing more gas on this post will not solve the issues some may have, it only separates those who enjoy working and driving their Jeeps. It makes a lot of folks go to other sites due to being tired of listening to the squabbling that does nothing at all to fix the problem that a few have. Believe it or not there are a lot of very satisfied customers and I know some who just got products just over the past couple of days and they are satisfied customers. But yet they will not say anything due to 3 or 4 that continue to fan the flames.
If I have an issue I quietly contact the supplier and work it out the best I can. I may warn others but I do not let it take on a life of its own and control me.

Think about it, the more you run over a dead cat, the flatter it gets, its not going to ever purr again.
So my suggestion is this thread be stopped, jeepologist keep working on whatever he thinks is best for him and everyone use their gas for keeping their Jeeps running, not throwing it on fires a quart at a time. It serves no purpose at all to keep rehashing things over and over and over and over and............................
The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.

Hey tommudd, how is the new front bumper from RL with my ordered extras doing on your jeep. Martin must have lost my address and delivered it to you instead. Oh wait you pickted it up from Martin over Christmas. It looks good that bumper with my ordered extras on your Kj don't you think :!:

And no wonder why you want to put a stop to this thread

streetglideok · **Posted:** Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:34 pm

I think Tom summed it up. I poked my nose back in to see what has happened, and its the same rehash of the same thing, 5 pages of it. Only difference is, some people are not getting enough attention in their life, and are dragging more people into it. I bet the next stink will be I'm somehow connected, because I once got a fast email response from Martin, especially since I have relatives that live in the general area he is at now. Someone needs a tinfoil hat and diaper change.

Here is a news flash to everyone. Chances are, most people skimmed over part of this thread, seen the stupidity in it, and have not returned since. All you are doing now is beating your chest for just yourself. Some people have an issue with RL, then stick to the issue. Don't start bringing more people into it, all in the name of stirring the pot more. Hell, this thread is about like being in the special Olympics, even if you get first, you're still retarded! For the drama queens, take it to PMs, we don't wanna see your drama llama anymore.

tommudd · **Posted:** Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:35 pm

Sorry, I don't have your bumper with all the extra you ordered or whatever you ordered
Mine is a stock off the rack bumper like he builds for everyone, I didn't order a special built one like you did
Plus I didn't pick it up from him over Christmas not sure where you came up with that.
Now if you wish to continue making accusations may I suggest you do it through PMs since what you are trying to do will not work here
Only reason I think it should be stopped is the simple fact it is getting no one anywhere at all.

Cherrie 274 · **Posted:** Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:44 pm

So when you can't find a defense, you try to insinuate mental capacity. Maybe you've read my posts maybe your unaware. My deceased sister was mentally retarded. And a Special Olympian. We were involved with Special Olympics for years. To try and compare anything in this thread and those people and athletes, shows little compassion. And that lack of compassion for members here mislead by post of praise. And post shut down about bad business dealings. Have kept me posting . And yes PMing I actually found a pm I sent to someone BEFORE they placed an order. But other members assured them it was sour grapes.So money was sent but product wasn't.
Amazingly it is a poster in this thread.
Again go back to my posts
Sling that mud, but the truth is the way.

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:21 pm

Jeepologist wrote:

Ok Mr. tjkj2002 you might be a good mechanic except it's clear your knowledge ends in the garage where you repair vehicles, and just for your info i happen to be a holder of Masters Degree in Law and In my profession I deal with legal matters almost everyday. If you think i'll post words in this forum without first evaluating the legal implications of such words then you need to think again.

What we're talking about here is "simple facts and not threats" and we're posting publicly on this forum for a good reason therefor refrain from steering to havoc.

In bold english, Martin has runaway with my money equally other members on this forum have or are experiencing the same. I've requested you as a fellow member on this forum and a close friend of his to advice him to return my money back so that we can avoid legal action against him, but it seems you're more interested in twisting what i've posted and siding with your friend regardless rather then doing what is right.

What a shame!

So asking others to do your dirty work is okay? Typical lawyer,get paid the big $$$ bvut do little to no leg work.

jlgail4309 · **Posted:** Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:29 pm

Wow !!

It get better every time I look!!

profdlp · **Posted:** Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:55 pm

jlgail4309 wrote:

Wow !!

It get better every time I look!!

You'll probably like this, too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzhkPfZwk20

:grim:

JeepMorrison · **Joined:** Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:34 am **Posts:** 1236

jlgail4309 wrote:

Wow !!

It get better every time I look!!

Yeah....pass the popcorn!!

Sent with the power of children's screams!!!

1996xj · **Posted:** Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:08 am

I am in disbelief !! I have an Idea, The trio that hasn't had their 500-3000 dollars "FLUSHED DOWN THE TORLET" GO TO (YOUR) BANK AND WITHDRAW A NICE SIZE OF CASH THAT WILL HURT! SEND THE MONEY TO ME ! AND I WILL SEND YOU A TUBE OF ANNELEASE ! for the discomfort !!!

and THANK'S for your business.

Jeepologist · **Joined:** Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:49 pm **Posts:** 30

tommudd wrote:

Sorry, I don't have your bumper with all the extra you ordered or whatever you ordered
Mine is a stock off the rack bumper like he builds for everyone, I didn't order a special built one like you did
Plus I didn't pick it up from him over Christmas not sure where you came up with that.
Now if you wish to continue making accusations may I suggest you do it through PMs since what you are trying to do will not work here
Only reason I think it should be stopped is the simple fact it is getting no one anywhere at all.

Here's how i know that bumper on your Kj was originally intended to be mine:

1- The 2 high-lift jacking point on the bumper is exclusively my idea as an extra and not Martin's and was to be integrated exclusively into my ordered Kj bumper only.

2- The rather heavy-duty winch seat on the bumper is also exclusively my idea as an extra and not Martin's and was to be integrated exclusively into my ordered bumper only so that it can accommodate my 12,000LB Warn PowerPlant winch.

3- i specifically ordered my bumper without the 2 integrated sports-lights and it also appears to be the case with the bumper on your Kj.

I have proof e-mail correspondences with Martin on this where it was agreed that the above two extras will be made exclusively for my Kj bumper only hence, the idea of the above extras came from me and not Martin.

Now what are those exclusive ordered extras that are exclusively my ideas doing on your bumper :?:

Jeepologist · **Joined:** Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:49 pm **Posts:** 30

tjkj2002 wrote:

Jeepologist wrote:

Ok Mr. tjkj2002 you might be a good mechanic except it's clear your knowledge ends in the garage where you repair vehicles, and just for your info i happen to be a holder of Masters Degree in Law and In my profession I deal with legal matters almost everyday. If you think i'll post words in this forum without first evaluating the legal implications of such words then you need to think again.

What we're talking about here is "simple facts and not threats" and we're posting publicly on this forum for a good reason therefor refrain from steering to havoc.

In bold english, Martin has runaway with my money equally other members on this forum have or are experiencing the same. I've requested you as a fellow member on this forum and a close friend of his to advice him to return my money back so that we can avoid legal action against him, but it seems you're more interested in twisting what i've posted and siding with your friend regardless rather then doing what is right.

What a shame!

So asking others to do your dirty work is okay? Typical lawyer,get paid the big $$$ bvut do little to no leg work.

Narrow minded individual who can't see further then the length of his nose, that is what you are. I was right about your knowledge ending in the garage where you repair vehicles.

Jeepologist · **Joined:** Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:49 pm **Posts:** 30

1996xj wrote:

I am in disbelief !! I have an Idea, The trio that hasn't had their 500-3000 dollars "FLUSHED DOWN THE TORLET" GO TO (YOUR) BANK AND WITHDRAW A NICE SIZE OF CASH THAT WILL HURT! SEND THE MONEY TO ME ! AND I WILL SEND YOU A TUBE OF ANNELEASE ! for the discomfort !!!

and THANK'S for your business.

Hey Punk, may i suggest you go and pick your nose and then find a forum that specializes in discomfort, flushed down trolets, sewages and so-forth so that you can discuses your plumbing profession with them :-)r

Jeepologist · **Joined:** Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:49 pm **Posts:** 30

streetglideok wrote:

I think Tom summed it up. I poked my nose back in to see what has happened, and its the same rehash of the same thing, 5 pages of it. Only difference is, some people are not getting enough attention in their life, and are dragging more people into it. I bet the next stink will be I'm somehow connected, because I once got a fast email response from Martin, especially since I have relatives that live in the general area he is at now. Someone needs a tinfoil hat and diaper change.

Here is a news flash to everyone. Chances are, most people skimmed over part of this thread, seen the stupidity in it, and have not returned since. All you are doing now is beating your chest for just yourself. Some people have an issue with RL, then stick to the issue. Don't start bringing more people into it, all in the name of stirring the pot more. Hell, this thread is about like being in the special Olympics, even if you get first, you're still retarded! For the drama queens, take it to PMs, we don't wanna see your drama llama anymore.

You seem to be contradicting yourself, no one has connected you to this thread but you're connecting your self :ROTFL:

1996xj · **Posted:** Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:03 am

Jeepologist Im a 40yr old punk!! I been around longer then your 27 post have !! Just frustrated !! Keep up the GOOD WORK !!

CoopaTroopa · **Posted:** Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:38 am

Jeepologist seems to be a great character! Exactly the kind of person that has kept me away from lost for the better half of the past year. I remember a few years ago when all you really had to deal with was a bit of sarcasm from JL Rockies, boy have times changed.

501 · **Posted:** Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:51 pm

Jeepologist wrote:

Here's how i know that bumper on your Kj was originally intended to be mine:

1- The 2 high-lift jacking point on the bumper is exclusively my idea as an extra and not Martin's and was to be integrated exclusively into my ordered Kj bumper only.

2- The rather heavy-duty winch seat on the bumper is also exclusively my idea as an extra and not Martin's and was to be integrated exclusively into my ordered bumper only so that it can accommodate my 12,000LB Warn PowerPlant winch.

3- i specifically ordered my bumper without the 2 integrated sports-lights and it also appears to be the case with the bumper on your Kj.

I have proof e-mail correspondences with Martin on this where it was agreed that the above two extras will be made exclusively for my Kj bumper only hence, the idea of the above extras came from me and not Martin.

Now what are those exclusive ordered extras that are exclusively my ideas doing on your bumper :?:

Here's a picture of the bumper any of us can order from RL

It seems to have Hi-Lift points, a winch seat and plugs to block off sport-lights just like Mudd has. Maybe Martin has decided to add these into the standard design just like Mudd recieved. You can see the photo at: http://www.rocklizardfabrications.com/Liberty_rock_monitor.htm top left picture under both 02-04 and 05-07 sections.

I don't see how it's Toms fault if he orders something and RL sends it to him before sending you something. It's not like Tom has powers over RL or anyone else for that matter. If Tom had 'powers' to make RL give him discounts I'm sure all his friends (Tom's) would have all the RL products on thier KJ's also.

Unforchantly, RL can pick who he send something to whenever he wants. Just cause he chooses someone over you does not mean that that person has the power to make RL do what they want. Mudd and TJKJ2002 are great people and help anyone that will listen to them when and where ever they can, when asked and they have nothing to do with how RL chooses to run his company.

tommudd · **Posted:** Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:03 pm

Jeepologist wrote:

tommudd wrote:

Sorry, I don't have your bumper with all the extra you ordered or whatever you ordered
Mine is a stock off the rack bumper like he builds for everyone, I didn't order a special built one like you did
Plus I didn't pick it up from him over Christmas not sure where you came up with that.
Now if you wish to continue making accusations may I suggest you do it through PMs since what you are trying to do will not work here
Only reason I think it should be stopped is the simple fact it is getting no one anywhere at all.

Here's how i know that bumper on your Kj was originally intended to be mine:

1- The 2 high-lift jacking point on the bumper is exclusively my idea as an extra and not Martin's and was to be integrated exclusively into my ordered Kj bumper only.

2- The rather heavy-duty winch seat on the bumper is also exclusively my idea as an extra and not Martin's and was to be integrated exclusively into my ordered bumper only so that it can accommodate my 12,000LB Warn PowerPlant winch.

3- i specifically ordered my bumper without the 2 integrated sports-lights and it also appears to be the case with the bumper on your Kj.

I have proof e-mail correspondences with Martin on this where it was agreed that the above two extras will be made exclusively for my Kj bumper only hence, the idea of the above extras came from me and not Martin.

Now what are those exclusive ordered extras that are exclusively my ideas doing on your bumper :?:

I wasn't going to waste my time here again, but since your accusations continue please read the following ( also look closely at the picture 501 posted
Take a close look, a very close look, no even closer
See the two round holes that have plastic covers in them where the fog lights go, yes the holes that you did not order on your " custom one off bumper" Now how did your bumper get holes in it and delivered to me when you didn't order yours with them?
If I were you I would be careful, since your story of accusing others is starting to fall apart, others will soon see your follies

CoopaTroopa · **Posted:** Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:59 pm

I know this isn't what the original poster or some commenters want to hear right now but... RL bumper and sliders literally just saved my jeep from what probably would have totaled it. Hit some black ice and slammed into a guard rail no less than 30 minutes ago. Walked away with a slightly bent bumper and a popped off flair. I figured since so much bad stuff is going around I'd share some positive.

JeepMorrison · **Joined:** Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:34 am **Posts:** 1236

CoopaTroopa wrote:

I figured since so much bad stuff is going around I'd share some positive.

You my friend can marry my sister!!

On the other note:
I know one other guy that ordered from RL, hes happy with his order and he isnt on this forum and refuses to get on here. Im the only person he knows with a lifted KJ. Hes pleased with the service and the product. I live in texas so I dont know yall from the north.

Sent with the power of children's screams!!!

streetglideok · **Posted:** Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:46 pm

CoopaTroopa wrote:

I know this isn't what the original poster or some commenters want to hear right now but... RL bumper and sliders literally just saved my jeep from what probably would have totaled it. Hit some black ice and slammed into a guard rail no less than 30 minutes ago. Walked away with a slightly bent bumper and a popped off flair. I figured since so much bad stuff is going around I'd share some positive.

Always good to hear some positives. I do need rock sliders, perhaps I may just order some to see how long it takes to get them.

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