You know, this is why you are coming off as a stretch....
The claim you make of all the features being your design, well believe what you will, but some know the truth, and you don't...I was there at a late night restaurant (can't say the name, or you may try to blame them too) when we drew up this design....have features been moved, yes, that happens, those who were with me at moab know some of the modifications to the design that came from my beating it on the trail. Design changes happen with quality r&d. I was there when the email from skunkworks came in, so the quality is there w/o your (false) claim to originality. I deal with people claiming things daily. Just stop. Stick to your original claim I bet you are exaggerating that too...personal opinion only, based on your posts. Is Marty a friend of mine, yes, I would go to war with him! Does he/has he struggled in business and life, yes. He has stated all legitimate orders were filled or cancelled, so I think you need to make contact and be PROFESSIONAL to discuss your issue. If you approach him professionally, he may look at records to help, but I am not there nor am I him. Whenever you deal with people, you should expect to get related the same way you treat them.
(Again this is my opinion only, not fact, and if you came at me the way you say you did to him and others here, I would not be motivated to work in your favor)
Bottom line threatening others and claiming others have your property/intellectual ideas is not a way to resolve things, and if you have your "masters in law" you obviously missed a lesson or two on how to get things done PROFESSIONALLY. The "strong arm bully lawyer" routine is for the birds.
Handle your business on your own please. Advice to the OP on your "experience" is one thing, this has gone far past that. Thank you
Jeepologist wrote:
Jeepologist wrote:
tommudd wrote:
Sorry, I don't have your bumper with all the extra you ordered or whatever you ordered
Mine is a stock off the rack bumper like he builds for everyone, I didn't order a special built one like you did
Plus I didn't pick it up from him over Christmas not sure where you came up with that.
Now if you wish to continue making accusations may I suggest you do it through PMs since what you are trying to do will not work here
Only reason I think it should be stopped is the simple fact it is getting no one anywhere at all.
Here's how i know that bumper on your Kj was originally intended to be mine:
1- The 2 high-lift jacking point on the bumper is exclusively my idea as an extra and not Martin's and was to be integrated exclusively into my ordered Kj bumper only.
2- The rather heavy-duty winch seat on the bumper is also exclusively my idea as an extra and not Martin's and was to be integrated exclusively into my ordered bumper only so that it can accommodate my 12,000LB Warn PowerPlant winch.
3- i specifically ordered my bumper without the 2 integrated sports-lights and it also appears to be the case with the bumper on your Kj.
I have proof e-mail correspondences with Martin on this where it was agreed that the above two extras will be made exclusively for my Kj bumper only hence, the idea of the above extras came from me and not Martin.
Now what are those exclusive ordered extras that are exclusively my ideas doing on your bumper
I wasn't going to waste my time here again, but since your accusations continue please read the following ( also look closely at the picture 501 posted
Take a close look, a very close look, no even closer See the two round holes that have plastic covers in them where the fog lights go, yes the holes that you did not order on your " custom one off bumper" Now how did your bumper get holes in it and delivered to me when you didn't order yours with them?
If I were you I would be careful, since your story of accusing others is starting to fall apart, others will soon see your follies
Hey smart Tom, the following quote from Martin's earlier e-mail correspondence with me will give you a clue but hey
Take a close look, a very close look, no even closer Quote >
new front bumpers have the driving light ports in the center section now instead of the wings, and will have plugs to cap the driving light port holes if you wish to not use them. The front bumpers are designed for the PIAA 004XT driving lights, which do not come standard with the bumpers, which is why plugs are included in case customers do not plan to get the lights anytime soon or ever. If you wish further proof you can pm your e-mail and we'll send you the full e-mail communication with the so called Martin/RL. And hey relax don't panic no one is accusing you of anything, enjoy the bumper in good health be it mine or yours
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