2005 4x4 KJ questions **PICS OF 2006***

2006KJSPORT4x4 · **Posted:** Tue May 16, 2006 9:43 pm

I'm looking at a used 2005 4x4 Renegade that already has 24K miles on it. Has anyone that has a 2005 experienced those lovely LBJ troubles that I see that all the previous years have endured? I know my 2005 KJ RME never seemed to have an issue and I had nearly 12K on it. Just looking for some thoughts. OR has anyone seemed to have had any issues with their 2005 4x4 KJs in general???

Here is the one in question:

Se7enLC · **Posted:** Tue May 16, 2006 9:56 pm

RockyMtEditionKJ wrote:

I'm looking at a used 2005 4x4 Renegade that already has 24K miles on it. Has anyone that has a 2005 experienced those lovely LBJ troubles that I see that all the previous years have endured? I know my 2005 KJ RME never seemed to have an issue and I had nearly 12K on it. Just looking for some thoughts. OR has anyone seemed to have had any issues with their 2005 4x4 KJs in general???

My 2005 Renegade has just over 20k miles on it (already...wow...I got it with < 10 miles on it last february). 2005 is a great year. You already know the flat hood that changes the way people look at the liberty. Now you get to see the command-trac 4x4, too! You'll love it! Also, the plastic bumper and fenders are a godsend. I laugh at all the other new cars my friends get when they get dinged up in the parking lot. Plastic doesn't show a ding!

Is it a 6-speed or an auto? I see rock-rails, does that mean it has skids and a trac-loc, too?

You'll love it!

pixeldzn · **Posted:** Tue May 16, 2006 9:56 pm

I have that exact same KJ minus the light bar. I bought it brand new and I have just under 20K on it. I haven't had any problems up un til now. My LBJs look good, as do my CV angles with the frankenlift.

KJ Willy · **Posted:** Tue May 16, 2006 9:57 pm

I have a 2005 with rusty's lift on for 8500 miles 22400 total. I have not had any issues yet. Knocking on wood.

2006KJSPORT4x4 · **Posted:** Tue May 16, 2006 10:05 pm

It's an automatic.

I see the rock rails too, I haven't actually looked at it in the flesh (or metal rather) because I just found it yesterday on-line when I started looking for a new one in my area. But my thinking is it should have the skid plates unless the guy was smart enough to take them off and sell them or something. I had e-mailed the dealer today if it was still available (for sale at a Subaru dealership actually) and they said it was but that the light covers for the light bar are not with the car, i had asked if they had them since they weren't on in the picture. I jsut hope I can convince my parents to help me invest on it.... :roll:

pixeldzn · **Posted:** Tue May 16, 2006 10:14 pm

RockyMtEditionKJ wrote:

It's an automatic.

I see the rock rails too, I haven't actually looked at it in the flesh (or metal rather) because I just found it yesterday on-line when I started looking for a new one in my area. But my thinking is it should have the skid plates unless the guy was smart enough to take them off and sell them or something. I had e-mailed the dealer today if it was still available (for sale at a Subaru dealership actually) and they said it was but that the light covers for the light bar are not with the car, i had asked if they had them since they weren't on in the picture. I jsut hope I can convince my parents to help me invest on it.... :roll:

Those skids aren't guaranteed. Mine did not include them, and I wasn't knowledgeable enough at the time to know I would want or need them.

SKIDOG · **Posted:** Tue May 16, 2006 10:24 pm

I've had mine since Aug last year ,19k and not a single problem and don't expect any either.Installing Frankenlift this weekend with Mutt...

shadow · **Posted:** Tue May 16, 2006 11:04 pm

RockyMtEditionKJ,

That is one sexy KJ... mind you I am a little biased since that is almost the exact same one i have...

Mine is an 2006 with 6 speed and a sunroof but on the outside it pretty much looks the same...

Definitely check for the skid plates...

What are they asking for it?

Buy it then come up to Ontario and you me and zeero can go wheelin in a dark khaki renegade train! heh heh

good luck!

Guyute1210 · **Posted:** Wed May 17, 2006 8:45 am

Looks like mine...Mine did come with the Off-Road Package, so it had skids and the Rock Rails. Does it have a sunroof too?

2006KJSPORT4x4 · **Posted:** Wed May 17, 2006 8:53 am

It doesn't say in the vehicle description that it does so I am assuming not.

It's going for $19,900 at this Subaru dealership.

I just noticed that it seems to have taillight guards on it too. Is that standard or part of some package that the Renegade comes with?

fish eye · **Posted:** Wed May 17, 2006 8:57 am

As I understand it, all the Renegades have those stock rock 'tubes'. They will be sufficient if you do light wheeling, but anything more intense, and you'll want to upgrade to some real rock sliders. ( <Read I bent those things. )

Also, having full skids doesn't indicate a Trac-Loc. I have full skids from the factory, and no Trac-Loc. Might not be a bad idea to put some money down to hold it while you get the VIN. Heck call them and ask for the VIN. Then, contact your Jeep dealer and get a vehicle report on it. The could probably fax it to you too. Then you'll have a better idea of what you are buying.

Did anyone ask what they are asking for it? I don't remember seeing it. Some dealers offer up some sweet NEW Renegades on eBay for real cheap... Makes me wish I looked there first...

**edit - Just saw the price tag. Not a bad deal, but you can get an 06 for only a few thousand more with minimal miles. Just a thought, not sure what kind of budget you are working with. Good Luck.

Se7enLC · **Posted:** Wed May 17, 2006 9:08 am

RockyMtEditionKJ wrote:

It doesn't say in the vehicle description that it does so I am assuming not.

It's going for $19,900 at this Subaru dealership.

I just noticed that it seems to have taillight guards on it too. Is that standard or part of some package that the Renegade comes with?

According to the photocopy I have of the dealership blue book, Off Road Group includes:

Trac-Lok
Power Steering Cooler
Heavy Duty Engine Cooling
P235/70R16 AT tires
Front Suspension Skid
Transmission Skid
"Skid Plate Group"
Fuel Tank Skid
Transfer Case Skid
Tow Hooks

There are two packages for the Renegade in 2005, The D and the X:

D has the following (X doesn't):
- Roof Mounted Light Bar
- Power Driver Seat
- Skid Plates
- Tail Lamp Guards

These are, of course, options that can be added to the D package. The taillamp guards are only listed as part of the D package, however, I don't see them as an available option for the X at all. That would imply that if you have the taillamp guards that you also have the skids.

Another thing I can tell you is that you do not have heated seats. It could still have the luxury package, sunroof, etc, as those are separate options that may/may not be included.

zeero · **Posted:** Wed May 17, 2006 9:49 am

shadow wrote:

Buy it then come up to Ontario and you me and zeero can go wheelin in a dark khaki renegade train! heh heh

good luck!

Thats right... :wink:

The Renny Train!

PBrug · **Posted:** Wed May 17, 2006 10:58 am

Se7enLC wrote:

RockyMtEditionKJ wrote:

It doesn't say in the vehicle description that it does so I am assuming not.

It's going for $19,900 at this Subaru dealership.

I just noticed that it seems to have taillight guards on it too. Is that standard or part of some package that the Renegade comes with?

According to the photocopy I have of the dealership blue book, Off Road Group includes:

Trac-Lok
Power Steering Cooler
Heavy Duty Engine Cooling
P235/70R16 AT tires
Front Suspension Skid
Transmission Skid
"Skid Plate Group"
Fuel Tank Skid
Transfer Case Skid
Tow Hooks

From the looks of the pic (No SR-A Tires) I'd say it doesn't have the Off Road Group, unless they can be switched for the ST's.

Se7enLC · **Posted:** Wed May 17, 2006 11:45 am

PBrug wrote:

From the looks of the pic (No SR-A Tires) I'd say it doesn't have the Off Road Group, unless they can be switched for the ST's.

Good spot. I agree, looks like no offroad group. Also, it's hard to tell, but I don't think I can see front tow hooks.

Guyute1210 · **Posted:** Wed May 17, 2006 11:58 am

Se7enLC wrote:

PBrug wrote:

From the looks of the pic (No SR-A Tires) I'd say it doesn't have the Off Road Group, unless they can be switched for the ST's.

Good spot. I agree, looks like no offroad group. Also, it's hard to tell, but I don't think I can see front tow hooks.

There is definitely no tow hooks on that KJ.

fish eye · **Posted:** Wed May 17, 2006 3:59 pm

Guyute1210 wrote:

Se7enLC wrote:

PBrug wrote:

From the looks of the pic (No SR-A Tires) I'd say it doesn't have the Off Road Group, unless they can be switched for the ST's.

Good spot. I agree, looks like no offroad group. Also, it's hard to tell, but I don't think I can see front tow hooks.

There is definitely no tow hooks on that KJ.

I would say that it is the 'D' package. That's the exact same set up that I have, except I have front tow hooks from the factory.

2006KJSPORT4x4 · **Posted:** Wed May 17, 2006 5:07 pm

This is what that particular Libby has on it (or should at least):

Dear Scott,

Thank you for your recent email to DaimlerChrysler Motors.

According to our records, this vehicle was equipped from the factory
with the following:

B5J3 Cloth High-Back Bucket Seats
ADLP Skid Plate Group
AHMS Convenience Group I
AJPS Power Convenience Group
APAS Monotone Paint
A90P 3.7L Eng (EKG)/4Spd A/T 42RLE (DG6)
BABS 160 Amp Alternator
BC2S 600 Amp Maintenance Free Battery
BRES 4-Wheel Disc Brakes
CF5S Rear 65/35 Folding Split Seat
CGUS Child Seat Anchor System-LATCH Ready
CG3S Advanced Multistage Front Air Bags**
CKDS Floor Carpet
CKNS Cargo Compartment Carpet
CKTS Cargo Tie Down Loops
CK3S Plastic Swing Gate Trim Panel
CLES Front & Rear Floor Mats
CLHP Cargo Trim Panel w/Storage Net
CSRS Passenger Assist Handles
CSWS Driver Assist Handle
CTLS Base Door Trim Panel
CUFS Full Length Floor Console
DGBS All 4-Speed Automatic Transmissions
DG6 4-Spd. Automatic 42RLE Transmission
DHAP Lock-Up Torque Converter
DHNP Command-Trac Part Time 4WD System
DJJS Dana 30/186MM Front Axle
DMEP 3.73 Axle Ratio
DRAS Corporate 8.25 Rear Axle
EKG 3.7L V6 Engine
GBBS Tinted Windshield Glass
GCBS Front Door Tinted Glass
GEGS Deep Tint Sunscreen Glass
GEKS Flipper Swing Gate Glass
GFAS Rear Window Defroster
GNAS Rear View Day/Night Mirror
GNCP Sun Visors w/Illum Vanity Mirrors
GT9S Power Mirrors, Fold-Away
GVBC All Vehicles W/Power Mirrors
GXMP Remote Keyless Entry
GXXP Sentry Key Theft Deterrent System
HAAS Air Conditioning
I57S Route 57 - CSX & NS, Ridgefield, NJ
JAYS Instrument Cluster w/Tach
JCBS 120 MPH Primary Speedometer
JHAS Var Intermittent Windshield Wipers
JHBS Rear Window Wiper/Washer
JJBS Dual Note Electric Horns
JJJS 12V Auxiliary Power Outlet
JJMP Rear Power Outlet
JKYS Power Accessory Delay
JPHP Speed Sensitive Power Locks
JPSP Power 6-Way Driver Seat
JPYS Pwr Windows, Drvr & Frt Pass 1-Touch
K1ES STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
K8ES *** DESCRIPTION NOT AVAILABLE ***
K9AS STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING COLOR
LABS Tire Pressure Monitoring Warning LP
LACP Illuminated Entry
LBBP Courtesy Lamps
LCDP Map/Dome Reading Lamps
LDBP Cargo Compartment Lamp
LHDS Headlamp Off Time Delay
LMAS Halogen Headlamps
LNJS Fog Lamps
LNSP Roof Mounted Light Bar
LPSS CHMSL Lamp
LSES Enhanced Accident Response System
MDAS Front License Plate Bracket
MFKS Body Color Grille
MLSS Accent Color Fascias
MT2S Trail Rated Badge
MVCS Jeep Badge
MVDS 4X4 Badge
MWZS Rugged Side Roof Rails
MXGP Tail Lamp Guard
MZLP 3.7L Badge
MZ2S Renegade Badge
NAS 50 State Emissions
NB5P Federal Tier 2, Bin 5 Emissions
NFPS 20.5 Gallon Fuel Tank
NHMS Speed Control
PJT Dk. Khaki Pearl Coat
QJTS Dk. Khaki Pearl Coat
RAAC All Radio Equipped Vehicles
RBKS AM/FM Compact Disc Radio w/Chgr Ctrl
RCGS 6 Speakers
RDDS Fixed Long Mast Antenna
SBAS Power Rack and Pinion Steering
SCGS Leather Wrapped Steering Wheel
SDAS Normal Duty Suspension
SUAS Tilt Steering Column
TBBS Full Size Spare Tire
TBRS Outside Tire Carrier
TR7S P225/75R16 OWL All Season Tires
TZAP Goodyear Brand Tires
WDUS 16X7.0 Aluminum Wheels
WKBS Matching Spare Wheel
WLZC All Aluminum Wheels
XCAS Occupant Classification System
XEAS Tow Hooks
XEEP Fuel Tank Skid Plate Shield
XEFP Transfer Case Skid Plate Shield
XEUP Front Suspension Skid Plate
SCGS Leather Wrapped Steering Wheel
SDAS Normal Duty Suspension
SUAS Tilt Steering Column
TBBS Full Size Spare Tire
TBRS Outside Tire Carrier
TR7S P225/75R16 OWL All Season Tires
TZAP Goodyear Brand Tires
WDUS 16X7.0 Aluminum Wheels
WKBS Matching Spare Wheel
WLZC All Aluminum Wheels
XCAS Occupant Classification System
XEAS Tow Hooks
XEEP Fuel Tank Skid Plate Shield
XEFP Transfer Case Skid Plate Shield
XEUP Front Suspension Skid Plate
XE9P Transmission Skid Plate
XGGS Grocery Bag Hooks
XJFS Tethered Fuel Filler Cap
XPFS Protective Coating and Remover
XVNP Basic Owner's Manual
YAAS Build To U S Market Specifications
YEP Manuf Statement of Origin
YGEA 5 Additional Gallons of Gas
ZCHP Spring - Left Front
ZCVP Spring - Left Rear
ZRGP Spring - Right Front
ZRVP Spring - Right Rear
Z5BS Payload Rating - 1800#

nolakj · **Posted:** Thu May 18, 2006 4:50 pm

Looks like a fine vehicle. Good luck with your search!!!

Dopefish · **Posted:** Thu May 18, 2006 5:43 pm

Looks the same as mine... I bought it for 19k out the door.

10k miles, dealer through in Roof rack, RB1 nav, 6 disc changer (its in the back

) and the 7/ 70 yr bumper to bumper coverage.

took me 2 days of 6 hrs a day.... The more time you spend, the more time they have invested, the better the deal!

Kenny

I have the skids and the

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