We need a contest!!!

hydenphoto · **Posted:** Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:00 pm

I'm sick and tired of seeing TJ, JK, and XJ and so on get a chance to win lifts! What about us KK guys! Come on someone step up and do a give away. If there were more out there to see then more KK's would be lifted! This goes for all other parts too, bumpers, roof racks, lights. lockers.....

We could enter with a pic of our KK and a story of how we would use it, the company picks ten to be voted on by us, the LOST group!

Come on who thinks this is a great idea?

silverkk · **Joined:** Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:27 pm **Posts:** 637

I think your a genius

tommudd · **Posted:** Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:39 am

OK seriously now.............
Lots of difference between suppliers for TJs/ JKs etc and your KK
Where they sell thousands, suppliers for KKs sell a few , profit margin is very low, thats why the big companies do not make anything for the KJs and KKs
One reason you don't see more lifted is because most KJ and KK owners don't want to spend 800-900 for a lift, they are wanting to spend 200 bucks is all
Its not that they don't know about lifts or need more pictures

hydenphoto · **Posted:** Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:10 am

Tom come on don't be an old crusty Richard. You know that all companies big or small could use a gift like this as a tax right off, or put it under "advertising". Yes people would rather spend less money on things, that's normal. If there were more KK's driving out on the trails more people would buy stuff, prices go down, more companies build things, and more people make money. Supply and demand has to start somewhere, right?

I'm not saying that the company that decides to participate in a contest would make a ton of money from it, it would just be fun.

I've read some of your posts, some helpful and some you just sound like an old man off of the movie Grumpy Old Men. Chill out.

hydenphoto · **Posted:** Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:15 am

And I'm sorry maybe I missed it, do you own a KK?

7urtle · **Joined:** Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:35 pm **Posts:** 11

Buy $2 raffle. Winner gets lift

tommudd · **Posted:** Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:33 am

hydenphoto wrote:

Tom come on don't be an old crusty Richard. You know that all companies big or small could use a gift like this as a tax right off, or put it under "advertising". Yes people would rather spend less money on things, that's normal. If there were more KK's driving out on the trails more people would buy stuff, prices go down, more companies build things, and more people make money. Supply and demand has to start somewhere, right?

I'm not saying that the company that decides to participate in a contest would make a ton of money from it, it would just be fun.

I've read some of your posts, some helpful and some you just sound like an old man off of the movie Grumpy Old Men. Chill out.

Grumpy??? No
Realist is what I am
I know first hand the profit margins etc those who supply lifts make and also have been on here and other forums for ten years watching / reading / listening / and installing a bunch of lifts

tommudd · **Posted:** Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:34 am

hydenphoto wrote:

And I'm sorry maybe I missed it, do you own a KK?

Don't have to own one to know a lot about them and their owners and also suppliers of aftermarket parts :wink:

Plus why would you want to have a contest of only KK owners, you would be alienating a lot of your brother and sisters who own KJs
We're in this together

hydenphoto · **Posted:** Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:11 am

Well this was posted on the KK side but if it takes a contest with both them I'm in. The cost of the lifts are completely different and I wouldn't want that to sway
The companies on who was allow in and who won.

I like the raffle idea.

tommudd · **Posted:** Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:51 am

hydenphoto wrote:

Well this was posted on the KK side but if it takes a contest with both them I'm in. The cost of the lifts are completely different and I wouldn't want that to sway
The companies on who was allow in and who won.

I like the raffle idea.

Cost of lifts are not different
Only things different between the KK and KJ lifts are the rear springs and the Upper Control Arms, front springs/shocks-( front and rear) bumpstops, etc are all the same parts
OME 1.50" lift kit KJ
OME 1.50" lift kit KJ
This kit comes with the New Sport Struts & Sport Shocks Springs to use in a 3.7L Gas Engine ...
$ 835.70
OME 1.50" lift kit KK
OME 1.50" lift kit KK
This Kit comes with the New Sport Struts & Sport Shocks Springs to use in a 3.7L Gas Engine ...
$ 835.70

hydenphoto · **Posted:** Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:19 am

So Tom is that the lift your giving away?

carlosburitica · **Joined:** Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:07 pm **Posts:** 309

when companies make products for jk, tj, zj, they can sell 1000's of parts and cost of manufacture and advertise come at a a lower reate if you just sale a few parts.
you can run 33" tires on a kk........... how many you see???
you can build full locked kk's.............. how many you see?????
you can build a 4" lift kk with cutom 4 link rear end......... how many you see????

you can do a lot on a kk jut need time and $$$ just like any other jeep but is there in no demand for it why to bother and that is why companies don't put money and time on the kk.

this may sound cruel but the people that have a kk including myself got a kk because a jk waas out of our league at almost double the price.
most people that lift a kk just want to play the go big or go home and probably will never touch a piece of dirt trail on the usefull time of a kk

trust me that a kk with 31" two lockers and a 3" lift can take you to places other don't......

and i said it a 100%
people don't regear. first mistake
lift and don't extend links and bars to keep the geometry and have a useful flex
an open differential is as good as nothing of road,,, how many do lock their kks?????????

see guys: a lot of stuff that is not done yet, before starting knocking the doors of the big aftermarket companies

tommudd · **Posted:** Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:53 pm

carlosburitica wrote:

when companies make products for jk, tj, zj, they can sell 1000's of parts and cost of manufacture and advertise come at a a lower reate if you just sale a few parts.
you can run 33" tires on a kk........... how many you see???
you can build full locked kk's.............. how many you see?????
you can build a 4" lift kk with cutom 4 link rear end......... how many you see????

you can do a lot on a kk jut need time and $$$ just like any other jeep but is there in no demand for it why to bother and that is why companies don't put money and time on the kk.

this may sound cruel but the people that have a kk including myself got a kk because a jk waas out of our league at almost double the price.
most people that lift a kk just want to play the go big or go home and probably will never touch a piece of dirt trail on the usefull time of a kk

trust me that a kk with 31" two lockers and a 3" lift can take you to places other don't......

and i said it a 100%
people don't regear. first mistake
lift and don't extend links and bars to keep the geometry and have a useful flex
an open differential is as good as nothing of road,,, how many do lock their kks?????????

see guys: a lot of stuff that is not done yet, before starting knocking the doors of the big aftermarket companies

Amen

hydenphoto · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:57 am

Ok this was supposed to be a fun post but everyone seems to have a stick up their stupid!

hydenphoto · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:59 am

Nice, love being censored! Total crap!

carlosburitica · **Joined:** Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:07 pm **Posts:** 309

lets make a contest.

show you kk on three wheels

tommudd · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:08 am

hydenphoto wrote:

Ok this was supposed to be a fun post but everyone seems to have a stick up their stupid!

No its being real, you're fairly new here, lots of us have been here for years now. Seen a lot of how companies and other Jeep owners view the Libertys etc. Chill out and enjoy working on your KK and taking it out no matter if its just back roads or hard core trails

tommudd · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:09 am

hydenphoto wrote:

Nice, love being censored! Total crap!

How do you think you are being censored?
No one has done anything to your posts except to comment

hydenphoto · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:19 am

Words I typed have been changed.

tommudd · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:35 am

hydenphoto wrote:

Words I typed have been changed.

NO ONE has changed any words that you typed in.
We do not do that, if a post gets way off line we may lock it or delete it but never does any Mod or Administrator go in and change words on anyones posts.
Certain words you used were automatically changed since we do not allow cuss words etc to be used on here. BUT that is done automatically not by the Mods.

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