Issues with e brake.

Brownrecluse · **Posted:** Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:48 am

bushtit wrote:

I noticed few times already that with my e brake pulled up on a slight hill in neutral, it does not do much. The car tends to roll downwards. Not something I would expect from properly functioning e brake. Never owned a Jeep before so I would like to figure out if it is simply common issue or if I have problem. The handle doesn't go that much up when pulled, so I always assumed it was/is adjusted right, but one never knows.

Is there easy way of telling if there is an issue?

You can pull off the rear rotors and check the condition of the brake shoes.

JBDeVega · **Posted:** Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:00 pm

my Liberty does the same thing, tried adjusting the brakes and i see no difference. Figured its not a big deal sense its an auto.

joelukex4 · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:54 pm **Posts:** 386

Exactly, it is an automatic. Who uses the darn thing unless you happen to have a manual.

flash7210 · **Posted:** Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:57 pm

just use a chock block

thesameguy · **Joined:** Sat Oct 01, 2016 8:24 pm **Posts:** 652

Man, I hate relying on the parking pawls to hold a car - seems like a really pointless way to risk damage to the transmission when they provide a lever to prevent it from happening...

mass-hole · **Posted:** Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:04 pm

joelukex4 wrote:

Exactly, it is an automatic. Who uses the darn thing unless you happen to have a manual.

Initiating a drift.

I adjusted mine with the tensioner inside of the center console and it didnt make a difference so I suspect its the shoes.

thesameguy · **Joined:** Sat Oct 01, 2016 8:24 pm **Posts:** 652

It's on my to-do list as well - just haven't gotten there yet so I've got nothing to offer. My lever points skyward and still doesn't hold the vehicle, so I suspect either the cable is stretched or the shoes for the e-brake are dead. It works "good enough" on flat land, but won't hold on a typical driveway so it has to be addressed.

Plus, you know, dorifto!

TURBO-DIESEL-FREAK · **Joined:** Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:29 pm **Posts:** 1167

In my experience, the primary reason for emergency brake problems and failures is the backing plate holding all of the hardware rots out. Keep in mind, however, that both of my Libertys use rear disc brakes. Drum brakes should not have the same problem because the backing plates of drum brakes are WAY more robust.

The backing plates of the rear disc brakes are flimsy. This is deliberately designed this way by manufacturers because the chunk of iron that takes the torsional force of braking for the e-brake and the rear caliper is not a part of the backing plate, and therefore the backing plate does not have to be considered a "safety part" and subject to higher standards of manufacture.

You should disassemble your rear look at the backing plates to see if they are rotted, the mounting holes are worn oval, or there is significant rust. Unfortunately, if the backing plates are indeed rotted out you will likely have to go to a wrecking yard to get replacements because the backing plates are not offered anywhere, (at least in North America). You have to go to the stealership to purchase completely new rear brake assemblies for hundreds of dollars per side to get new backing plates.

This little scheme by the manufacturers is pulled off with many vehicles that have rear disc brakes. I am still looking for a partner to set up a stamping plant to manufacture 304 stainless steel 1/8" replacement rear backing plates for the most popular vehicles that this problem is prevalent.

Dies for each backing plate would likely be about $15,000.00 CDN per set; two sets would be required for every vehicle. A 500 ton press would also be needed. If this problem is anywhere near as bad as I think it is throughout the automotive industry, there is a significant amount of money to be made here.

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