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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:59 pm 
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Have you ever driven a car built on the picific rim? They are flimsy and thinly built... The American OEM's might be down, but they are not out.


Yes I have. We own a lexus RX 330 and it is one of the nicest vechicles I have ever driven. It's not the most expensive, but everything is really solid and we have not had a single problem just over a year. It gets great milage, is luxurious on the inside, is practically silent and performs well under all conditions. Cheap japanese cars are the same as cheap american cars: cheap. You can't have a cheap car that is also high quality, no matter what the manufactuers tell you.


Blueovalnews? Is that like ford.com/news or something? Seriously quote all you want from that site .. it means nothing.


I don't doubt that people have driven older jeeps for longgg periods of time (and older fords). Read what you said, they're all older vechicles. We're not discussing cars from the past here, this is current.

Also, I agree with whoever said that a lot of the new japanese cars and trucks are fugly. In addition, I would never 4wheel most asian cars. We're talking about real life quality here though, not hobby usage.

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Have you ever driven a car built on the picific rim? They are flimsy and thinly built... The American OEM's might be down, but they are not out.

Have driven some really flimsy ones and some really solid ones. The mid-90's vintage Camry I owned was very solid but when it became time to replace stuff, it got stupid expensive. It got replaced with an Impala because I decided it wasn't worth the $5K-$6K premium to buy another Toyota/Honda. The body fit isn't close to the Toyota, but I run the snot out of the Impala and thus far it's holding up much better mechanically than the Camry was at the same mileage. If I had to make the choice over again, would buy the Chevy and pocket the cash. As for the CRD??, well that's another story.

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Blue oval news reports on all the automotive industry, they don't make the news, they only report it. A lot od thier articles comes from the Detroit freepress and other newspapers and sources. When they report an article, they link you with it's original source to read the original article, douting Tomas ha ha.

I read 2 articles alittle while ago on the new bronco, 1) was in ford world, a retiree newspaper my dad gets every month from ford, the other was either truck trend, or one of my offroad mags, fourwheel-offroad or one of them, I get 5. Any way the bronco is a go, it will look sorta like the concept (retro), but the concept was a hoax, it was on an escape platform ft-wd with a diesel. The real bronco will have solid frt and rear axles, a hose out floor and removable top, didn't say what engines, but the diesel from the concept would be nice, It's to go head to head with the wrangler. I had a 75 bronco, it was one of the toughest 4x4's that I ever owned, it had a v8, a 9" rear, dana 44 frontend, but the bodies rusted out easy. 4 of the toughest and funest 4x4's ever made were the cj-5, cj-7, bronco and scout. I know the new wranglers have more advancements blah blah blah, but the old ones were just fun, rugged, uncomplicated and could take a thrashing, even the flat fenders with 60 hp were awesome, and still are if your lucky enough to get one. But for offroad ability and comfort, it's hard to beat the liberty in my opinion. I don't want to be a gossip, but there's even been rumors that international was thinking about bringing the scout back, that would be cool. As for me, I've allways had a jeep of one sort or another in my stable along with my fords and Lord willing, that will never change. As long as there's a jeep to be bought, and I have money, I will own one. O f course in a perfect world, a jeep, bronco and scout setting in my driveway would work for me. I have never owned a square head lighted wrangler yet, I want that to be my next project and toy when I find the right one at the right price, in the mean time I gotta toughen up the kj, the ranger is close to being done, if a vehicle is ever really done ha ha.

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Good places to get news on the automotive industry:

www.thecarconnection.com
www.detnews.com (auto insider)
www.insideline.com
www.autoweek.com

and sometimes at yahoo...

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