Livingston, KY - February 17th, 2007

pixeldzn · **Posted:** Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:09 pm

1) moose+2 grill, coffee & coco
2) Science_Guy soda, water
3) AndySRT chips&misc.
4) pixeldzn(maybe+3/maybe alone) dogs&grill

SunDvl · **Posted:** Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:27 pm

So nobody's down to camp?

pixeldzn · **Posted:** Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:29 pm

SunDvl wrote:

So nobody's down to camp?

AndyFrascone · **Joined:** Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:04 am **Posts:** 3

I have a 2006 Liberty Sport 4X4 totally stock (with exception to the audio system) that is my daily driver. I have done a deal of mudding a trail blazing with an '86 Suzuki Sami, and a 79 Chevy Blazer, but not for many years. Since the Liberty is my daily driver and only have 5500 miles on it, I do not want to go through trails and rock runs that cause damage. But I do want to blaze some trails and have fun off-road.

http://www.frascone.com/gallery2?g2_vie ... 099ea1bea1

Since I am not ready (modifications or mentally) for a Rubicon-type run, should I try this run with you guys? I am in Lexington, Kentucky (originally from Dallas, TX).

Andy

SunDvl · **Posted:** Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:58 pm

pixeldzn wrote:

SunDvl wrote:

So nobody's down to camp?

I'm really trying to conserve cash, since the twins will be here around the end of April...

Plus, I love a good camp fire! So, you down Don?

moose · **Posted:** Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:25 pm

AndyFrascone wrote:

I have a 2006 Liberty Sport 4X4 totally stock (with exception to the audio system) that is my daily driver. I have done a deal of mudding a trail blazing with an '86 Suzuki Sami, and a 79 Chevy Blazer, but not for many years. Since the Liberty is my daily driver and only have 5500 miles on it, I do not want to go through trails and rock runs that cause damage. But I do want to blaze some trails and have fun off-road.

http://www.frascone.com/gallery2?g2_vie ... 099ea1bea1

Since I am not ready (modifications or mentally) for a Rubicon-type run, should I try this run with you guys? I am in Lexington, Kentucky (originally from Dallas, TX).

Andy

If I were you, I'd drive down and run around on the rocks at the start of the trail until we all get there, then park it and ride shotgun with someone until the end of the day. It'll let you know what's in your backyard, and allow you to meet the guys.

Jeger · **Posted:** Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:27 pm

SunDvl wrote:

pixeldzn wrote:

SunDvl wrote:

So nobody's down to camp?

I'm really trying to conserve cash, since the twins will be here around the end of April...

Plus, I love a good camp fire! So, you down Don?

If I end up making this run, and I am by myself, I would be up for some camping.

moose · **Posted:** Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:28 pm

SunDvl wrote:

pixeldzn wrote:

SunDvl wrote:

So nobody's down to camp?

I'm really trying to conserve cash, since the twins will be here around the end of April...

Plus, I love a good camp fire! So, you down Don?

I can't see how you could camp on Friday with the drive down, but you could always crash in Dayton and leave at 0530 with me if you want to save some. For the trip back, it is National Forest, so I think it would be fine to camp over Saturday night. Just depends on the weather and your gear.

pixeldzn · **Posted:** Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:37 pm

SunDvl wrote:

pixeldzn wrote:

SunDvl wrote:

So nobody's down to camp?

I'm really trying to conserve cash, since the twins will be here around the end of April...

Plus, I love a good camp fire! So, you down Don?

I really did think you were joking, so I laughed. We may need some input from the other guys as to what camping areas are close to the trail, but it looks like a great number of them are seasonal. I am down to camp if my wife and kids don't come, but remember that I don't have monday off like you do so I would need to drive back on Sunday afternoon, unless I take the Monday off.

Here's the website I was looking at:

http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/boone/recreatio ... ndon.shtml

moose · **Posted:** Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:10 pm

You could camp at the cave in our pictures. My understanding of NF is that unless posted otherwise, you can camp.

SunDvl · **Posted:** Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:33 pm

I would plan on returning Sunday, so no need to take Monday off. A designated camping area would be best, since there would likely be some decent spots (level ground, tables, and fire ring). I wouldn't want to camp by the cave in all the pics because it is probably popular spot with a lot of traffic. I haven't looked into the campsights yet, so I'll start to review the area as well.

By the way, the bro-in-law is looking into to get out of the Cherokee and into a used Rubi...

pixeldzn · **Posted:** Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:15 pm

SunDvl wrote:

I would plan on returning Sunday, so no need to take Monday off. A designated camping area would be best, since there would likely be some decent spots (level ground, tables, and fire ring). I wouldn't want to camp by the cave in all the pics because it is probably popular spot with a lot of traffic. I haven't looked into the campsights yet, so I'll start to review the area as well.

By the way, the bro-in-law is looking into to get out of the Cherokee and into a used Rubi...

Is a half day friday a possibility for you? I'd rather drive in partial daylight if we can.

I agree on the developed campsite - I like that better too. The area closest to the trailhead is the "London" area from what I understand.

Can't wait for Dennis to score a Rubicon - preety soon those are gonna dominate our group from the way it looks!

For the repeat offenders - what is the official name of the trail you guys always take so that I can call the forest service office and ask what year round campground would be the best option?

moose · **Posted:** Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:13 am

pixeldzn wrote:

SunDvl wrote:

I would plan on returning Sunday, so no need to take Monday off. A designated camping area would be best, since there would likely be some decent spots (level ground, tables, and fire ring). I wouldn't want to camp by the cave in all the pics because it is probably popular spot with a lot of traffic. I haven't looked into the campsights yet, so I'll start to review the area as well.

By the way, the bro-in-law is looking into to get out of the Cherokee and into a used Rubi...

Is a half day friday a possibility for you? I'd rather drive in partial daylight if we can.

I agree on the developed campsite - I like that better too. The area closest to the trailhead is the "London" area from what I understand.

Can't wait for Dennis to score a Rubicon - preety soon those are gonna dominate our group from the way it looks!

For the repeat offenders - what is the official name of the trail you guys always take so that I can call the forest service office and ask what year round campground would be the best option?

London is at the end of the trail that day. We typically go up to Richmond for food after the run due to choices, but y'all can skip that if you want.

SunDvl · **Posted:** Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:32 am

Based on the info you found Don, we have 3 choices for camp sites - Little Lick & Bee Rock (open yr round) and S. Tree (some sites open yr round, just need to call 1st). S. Tree is northeast of the Exit 49 (the normal starting point for the run and close to Livingston) and Little Lick & Bee Rock are southwest.

Based on the GPS topo from the last trip, Bee Rock may be the closest campground...

I can check on the 1/2 day thing, probably not a problem. I haven't talked to Dennis yet, so I'm not sure about him.

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:44 am

Would be cool if some of you got a camping site

I could come down and hang out.. But I would go back to my dorm to sleep. :lol:

Im going to school at EKU AndyFrascone. Its cool to have another lost person that lives close to me! You are the closest so far!!

Eddo · **Joined:** Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:01 pm **Posts:** 1214

pixeldzn wrote:

SunDvl wrote:

I would plan on returning Sunday, so no need to take Monday off. A designated camping area would be best, since there would likely be some decent spots (level ground, tables, and fire ring). I wouldn't want to camp by the cave in all the pics because it is probably popular spot with a lot of traffic. I haven't looked into the campsights yet, so I'll start to review the area as well.

By the way, the bro-in-law is looking into to get out of the Cherokee and into a used Rubi...

Is a half day friday a possibility for you? I'd rather drive in partial daylight if we can.

I agree on the developed campsite - I like that better too. The area closest to the trailhead is the "London" area from what I understand.

Can't wait for Dennis to score a Rubicon - preety soon those are gonna dominate our group from the way it looks!

For the repeat offenders - what is the official name of the trail you guys always take so that I can call the forest service office and ask what year round campground would be the best option?

Sheltowee Trace Trailfor a bit then Fallis City Rd. Don't be surprised if they tell you off-road driving is not permitted. According the the FS we are still on a an established road driving legal street vehicles, hence not off-road driving or operating off highway vehicles.

If we finish that early we had plans of exploring the Wildcat Mountain/FR737+736 area.

Eddo · **Joined:** Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:01 pm **Posts:** 1214

BTW, could me in

1) moose+2 grill, coffee & coco
2) Science_Guy soda, water
3) AndySRT chips&misc.
4) pixeldzn(maybe+3/maybe alone) dogs&grill
5) Eddo - whatever else is need (some desert?)

Renegade363 · **Posted:** Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:39 pm

Can Jeeps with out lifts get through the trail there?

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:46 pm

Renegade363 wrote:

Can Jeeps with out lifts get through the trail there?

If you had skids and rocker rails, then I would say you should be "ok." A LS or locker REALLY helps too. You have a higher risk of getting body damage without a lift though.

Renegade363 · **Posted:** Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:52 pm

Jeepjeepster wrote:

If you had skids and rocker rails, then I would say you should be "ok." A LS or locker REALLY helps too. You have a higher risk of getting body damage without a lift though.

I have skids and rocker rails. But don't need anymore body damage. Have my Jeep at the collision shop now getting fixed from the rear-end accident and getting hit by a tree at "The Badlands"

Livingston, KY - February 17th, 2007

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