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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:25 am 
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I just called Rustys.

They say that the CRD is virtually the same weight and that the kit will work fine on the CRD.

And I did a search. AllPar is where this is from


CRD
Axle Ratio (lbs.) 3.73
GVWR (lbs.) 5600
GCWR (lbs.) 10,150
GAWR Front/Rear (lbs.) 2750/3150
Curb Weight, est.(a) (lbs.) 4296
Max. Tongue Weight(b) (lbs.) 750
Max. Trailer Weight(b) (lbs.) 5000
Max. Payload(c) (lbs.) 1150
Max. Cargo(d) (lbs.) 400

3.7 Gas
Axle Ratio (lbs.) 3.73
GVWR (lbs.) 5600
GCWR (lbs.) 10,150
GAWR Front/Rear (lbs.) 2750/3150
Curb Weight, est.(a) (lbs.) 4296
Max. Tongue Weight(b) (lbs.) 750
Max. Trailer Weight(b) (lbs.) 5000
Max. Payload(c) (lbs.) 1150
Max. Cargo(d) (lbs.) 400



A similarly equiped CRD will weigh 200 lbs more than the 3,7liter and all the weight difference is in the engine compartment. The curb weight for the 3.7 is around 4085 lbs and the curb wieght of the CRD is 4296 lbs. Allpar has the wrong numbers posted for the 3.7, but the CRD seems to be accurate.

About two months ago I was in the process of developing a lift kit for the CRD and did a few quick calculations and came to the realization that a 500 lb spring rate in the front end would be most appropriate for lifting a CRD. Innitially the CRD comes with a 410 lbs spring rate while the 3.7 comes with a 300 lb spring rate if I remember correctly. Even if the Rusty's Lift comes with a 375-400 lb spring rate it will still not be enough to support a lifted CRD, esspecially if you put an aftermarket bumper on the front end. I quit pursuing my lift design because a few day after I remarked that I was pursuing to develop a lift with a 500 lb rate, Heather at ALLJ's informed us that the OME front coil springs that were being developed went from a 425 lb rate to a 500 lb rate. I would like to think that I had something to do with it but in all reality some engineer at OME made the same calculations I did and realized that even a 425 lb spring would not be adequate for the CRD. So instead of developing a lift, I am now in the process of waiting for the new 500 lb springs from OME to arrive at AllJ's.

If it were me, I would weight for the new CRD Frankenlift with the new OME struts and the new 500 lb OME front coil springs, but if you choose to go with rusty's let the rest of us know how it goes.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:04 pm 
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Thanks....

Not sure what I am gonna do.

I need tires soon, I would like to lift first so I can get larger ones.

Does anyone know when the NEW OME CRD Front Springs will be available???

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 Post subject: a “tire sizes for dummies” link
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:49 am 
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CRuD Bucket wrote:
... I’m sure I could do a Google, but it would be nice of someone posted a “tire sizes for dummies” link. I realize that P245’s are higher than P225’s but “what does it all mean?” :lol: :?:

Hey CRuD Bucket,

I don't know if you or anyone else is aware of this Tire Size/Comparison calculator over on Miata.net, but it really helps in determining different tire sizes:

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

I had a Miata as my daily driver till I got my CRD; its nice to be able to go off-roading now and still get similar gas (diesel) mileage!

The Miata.net site is a pretty cool site with LOTS of "How To's". It'd be nice if LOSTKJs could set up their site like that (IMHO).

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After alot of research, and a long conversation with Rustys Offroad, I have ordered The 2.5 Suspension kit for my CRD.

Its very interesting that alot of the numbers that Rustys has for spring rate specs, are very different than alot of what I see posted alot of places.

For those that are interested, I got an email from Heather at AllJ. The OME CRD Coils are to be shipped March 26th. Up until March 25th the price is $155 a pair.

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What is the price after that? Will I save if I buy the springs now and the rest of the parts later?

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I have no idea what the other price will be, the email just says if you would like to get in on the introductry price, let us know by March 25th...

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Rustys Lift Installed...


It sits great and rides awesome.....

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s_allcroft wrote:
Rustys Lift Installed...


It sits great and rides awesome.....


You should know by now that we would like to see pictures. Lots of them. :D

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LOL

And guess what I do for a living???

I will have to take a few!!!!

I did not have gear with me when I did the install....

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Ok here we go...

I was out running some errands today, I saw a CRD in the lot at Wal-Mart.. I did not have any camera gear with me.

However I parked mine next to the other and snapped these with my cellphone!!

They Suck.. LOL.. Of course I am used to my EOS-1ds!!!!!

Anyway mine is the Silver One..................... In case ya can not see the lift!!!

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