Maybe a Franky for sale...

moose · **Posted:** Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:17 pm

I may have a Frankenlift for sale, not for sure yet. I'm giving the KJ to the dealer to work on for next week while I'm on travel. If they don't have it fixed, I'd starting the paperwork for the Lemon Law. I just wanted to give the Midwest guys a chance to think about it for a week in case things once again don't go my way... I bought it used in the fall with only 6 weeks on it. Only off road a few times. Thinking of $500+shipping if it comes to this. (this also gives folks Moab bound a chance to put in a word...)

SunDvl · **Posted:** Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:54 pm

What's wrong with the Jeep? Not sure if lemon laws are the same in every state but I guess this means you've had the same issue 3 times...

moose · **Posted:** Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:35 pm

well... when you pull up for a gentle stop (i.e., apply the breaks lightly) on dry pavement, you get the ABS kicking in. then, when you take off and turn hard to the right, the system will sometimes determine that you are out of control on the dry pavement and limit the RPMs from the 3000 you are at (remember, we are turning out onto a main street and trying not to be a hood ornament) to about 1000 for a few seconds. This makes everyone behind you very happy. No one has hit me yet, but Monday I almost became a hood ornament for the FedEx guy... I can't have a truck that might get my kids injured in some stupid accident. Oh, and when the ESP off button has the ESP in partial off, I haven't seen these issues.

So this started in July, and they said it was normal operation. The engineers at camp jeep seemed to have a few ideas, but nothing they could tell me to do. Talking to the dealer for 4-5 months to get a regional tech rep to look at the car was fruitless, so I took the tech at the dealer for a 20 minute ride where it did both issues, but didn't register any faults on his computer. they had it again for a few days last week, but said the lift and the tires would need to go to determine that they were not the problem (also needed to be off if we Lemon Law it). So, today the 32's came off (may sell these, as the CJ uses 15's). Saturday Ed and I are un-lifting it (just cant say lower :wink:

) and removing the front diff collar (Jeepjeepster expressed interest). The only thing left will be the skinks (TomMudd has dibs on these) and the CB, which will be moving to the CJ if the KJ goes.

I really like the KJ, but I'm tired of this issue. I would almost consider a really upside down trade if the Lemon Law goes against me.

FastTRX · **Posted:** Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:15 pm

I may be interested if I get a few things sold in a week or so...

I'm getting rid of some stuff sitting around and if all goes well and the potential buyers hold their word...I may be interested in taking it off your hands. But we'll see how it goes. Keep me in mind though.

Hope everything goes well w/ the lemon law process. Sad to hear you could be straying away from the KJ...

tommudd · **Posted:** Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:28 pm

If you need any help lowering,...... WHOOPS I MEAN unlifting it :lol:

let me know, but it you have some good help there!

moose · **Posted:** Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:04 am

tommudd wrote:

If you need any help lowering,...... WHOOPS I MEAN unlifting it :lol:

let me know, but it you have some good help there!

i wouldn't think Ed would mind extra hands, but it's his shop. PM him if you want to come down. We're starting at 1000 and I'll buy pizza (or we can take the low rider over to Hooters)

I'm back on stock tires with the franky, and it feels so low... :cry:

moose · **Posted:** Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:06 am

FastTRX wrote:

I may be interested if I get a few things sold in a week or so...

I'm getting rid of some stuff sitting around and if all goes well and the potential buyers hold their word...I may be interested in taking it off your hands. But we'll see how it goes. Keep me in mind though.

Hope everything goes well w/ the lemon law process. Sad to hear you could be straying away from the KJ...

Well, this is just a heads up so you can be in a position to get it if it works out that way.

FastTRX · **Posted:** Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:16 am

Sounds good moose....keep me in mind. :wink:

Eddo · **Joined:** Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:01 pm **Posts:** 1214

More help is always welcome. Send me a PM and I'll give you my address.

Moose, does this mean that if by some miracle they fix the ESP problem we are going to be having a re-lift party.

moose · **Posted:** Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:44 pm

Eddo wrote:

More help is always welcome. Send me a PM and I'll give you my address.

Moose, does this mean that if by some miracle they fix the ESP problem we are going to be having a re-lift party.

With more pizza or a trip to hooters (or city bbq). although, spare ribs would smoke in about the time it takes to do the lift, so maybe we smoke some ribs for the relift. In fact, I could get some ribs today if you and May are interested for the lowering...

moose · **Posted:** Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:43 am

OK, it in the for sale section....

oldgus · **Posted:** Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:22 pm

moose wrote:

well... when you pull up for a gentle stop (i.e., apply the breaks lightly) on dry pavement, you get the ABS kicking in. then, when you take off and turn hard to the right, the system will sometimes determine that you are out of control on the dry pavement and limit the RPMs from the 3000 you are at (remember, we are turning out onto a main street and trying not to be a hood ornament) to about 1000 for a few seconds. This makes everyone behind you very happy. No one has hit me yet, but Monday I almost became a hood ornament for the FedEx guy... I can't have a truck that might get my kids injured in some stupid accident. Oh, and when the ESP off button has the ESP in partial off, I haven't seen these issues.

So this started in July, and they said it was normal operation. The engineers at camp jeep seemed to have a few ideas, but nothing they could tell me to do. Talking to the dealer for 4-5 months to get a regional tech rep to look at the car was fruitless, so I took the tech at the dealer for a 20 minute ride where it did both issues, but didn't register any faults on his computer. they had it again for a few days last week, but said the lift and the tires would need to go to determine that they were not the problem (also needed to be off if we Lemon Law it). So, today the 32's came off (may sell these, as the CJ uses 15's). Saturday Ed and I are un-lifting it (just cant say lower :wink:

) and removing the front diff collar (Jeepjeepster expressed interest). The only thing left will be the skinks (TomMudd has dibs on these) and the CB, which will be moving to the CJ if the KJ goes.

I really like the KJ, but I'm tired of this issue. I would almost consider a really upside down trade if the Lemon Law goes against me.

I realize this is an older post, but I just got done talking to Moose. I'm having the EXACT same issues with my '06 KJ Sport. Had it 3 weeks and took it to the dealer and got pretty much the same no answer answers that Moose got. FWIW to anyone having similar issues, his was a stick and mine is an auto - so it can happen to either. I will probably be looking to take it back to the dealer next week - for good. Hopefully I won't take too bad a beating on it and trade it for a Wrangler. I'm trying to gather info on this issue, so PLEASE, anyone having this problem let me know so I can print out the posts and take them to the dealership to prove I'm not crazy. It could be an issue only for the '06 Libs and apparantly is related to the ESP but they won't fix anything that doesn't register a code or fault on their computer test.

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:20 pm

I would just take the fuse out for the ABS. Ive never had any problems not having ABS.

oldgus · **Posted:** Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:44 pm

Decided to keep it. It's been acting a little better. Must have heard me threaten to get rid of her. :wink:

oldgus · **Posted:** Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:50 pm

oldgus wrote:

Decided to keep it. It's been acting a little better. Must have heard me threaten to get rid of her. :wink:

Forget that. This freakin' KJ is possesed. Just when I thought it was ok, now the ABS/ESP acts up about every third or fourth time I apply the brakes! It goes back to the stealership on Tuesday, and I'm taking along Moose's info from his dealership so they can contact them to verify this is not a one time issue. If they can't fix it - they better give me a full refund. :roll:

Well...whatever. I can't deal with this if they can't fix it.

I may have MOPAR front tow hooks, gas tank skid, and a Hidden Hitch FS soon.

501 · **Posted:** Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:51 pm

oldgus wrote:

Decided to keep it. It's been acting a little better. Must have heard me threaten to get rid of her. :wink:

Forget that. This freakin' KJ is possesed. Just when I thought it was ok, now the ABS/ESP acts up about every third or fourth time I apply the brakes! It goes back to the stealership on Tuesday, and I'm taking along Moose's info from his dealership so they can contact them to verify this is not a one time issue. If they can't fix it - they better give me a full refund. :roll:

Well...whatever. I can't deal with this if they can't fix it.

I may have MOPAR front tow hooks, gas tank skid, and a Hidden Hitch FS soon.

Is that Hidden Hitch for the front? if so I'd like a chance at getting it.

oldgus · **Posted:** Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:57 pm

501 wrote:

oldgus wrote:

Decided to keep it. It's been acting a little better. Must have heard me threaten to get rid of her. :wink:

Forget that. This freakin' KJ is possesed. Just when I thought it was ok, now the ABS/ESP acts up about every third or fourth time I apply the brakes! It goes back to the stealership on Tuesday, and I'm taking along Moose's info from his dealership so they can contact them to verify this is not a one time issue. If they can't fix it - they better give me a full refund. :roll:

Well...whatever. I can't deal with this if they can't fix it.

I may have MOPAR front tow hooks, gas tank skid, and a Hidden Hitch FS soon.

Is that Hidden Hitch for the front? if so I'd like a chance at getting it.

No - it's for the rear. If anything goes for sale, I'll post a heads up here, and put another post on the FS forum.

501 · **Posted:** Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:19 pm

Thanks for the info oldgus!

oldgus · **Posted:** Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:55 pm

Took mine in Tuesday for the second time for this problem. Guess what? Two weeks ago Chrysler found the problem and it got fixed by a PCM (Power Control Module) flash. Apparantly enough people complained about this mystery ABS/ESP gremlin that they looked into it more and found the problem in a control module.

Got rid of the KJ anyway. Got a full refund and bought an '06 TJ Unlimited. Chrome grill cover and chrome side steps will be FS. I'll post on FS section when I can get pictures. If interested meanwhile PM me.

http://strongsville-dodge.ebizautos.com ... 66894.html

BTW - sorry but nothing for sale off the KJ - the dealer wanted it all as part of the deal. In return I ended up with a never used soft top for the TJ. I'm happy.

tommudd · **Posted:** Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:27 pm

Looks good!! If you want used skids, lifts etc go over to the Rubicon Owners Forum , they always have a bunch of things for sale, that those guys are changing out!

Maybe a Franky for sale...

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