daystar top plates

tommudd · **Posted:** Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:39 am

tonycrd wrote:

JSC, I shouldn't bother fitting those rings, you need to take the topplate of again so compress the springs again etc. Compressing the spring more is not going to improve your ride quality, believe me...been there.

Fit some 1/4 Rusty plates on top of the strut. Done.

And:

501's pic has been added to the lift FAQ.

or if you have the stock top plates get the Rocky Road plates for just a touch more lift, theirs are a little thicker :wink:

tonycrd · **Posted:** Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:53 am

Tom's right, I forgot about those. They are 3/8 but then you will run into a little problem: the OEM studs on the topplate will be to short. You will have to fit longer ones....

tonycrd · **Posted:** Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:58 am

Just a thought:

What is the benefit of fitting Daystar extended topplates to an OME setup?

Imo spring lenght (with the cars weight on it) will be the same as with stock top plates...

All the top-plate does now is push the shock down / in?

You do gain more droop this way....but do I want that much droop...

jsc7002 · **Posted:** Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:03 pm

tonycrd wrote:

JSC, I shouldn't bother fitting those rings, you need to take the topplate of again so compress the springs again etc. Compressing the spring more is not going to improve your ride quality, believe me...been there.

Fit some 1/4 Rusty plates on top of the strut. Done.

And:

501's pic has been added to the lift FAQ.

yeah I know Ill have to take it all apart but it adds spring rating, For front strut springs, on a 350 lbs spring you will add 175lbs of force on the front.

tonycrd · **Posted:** Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:46 pm

Ok, let us know how they work after you installed them....

(still worried it will feel like my spacer lift

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jsc7002 · **Posted:** Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:57 pm

You really think it will add too much?....now you have me doubting whether I should do it or not lol it would be nice not to have to compress the coils by hand again, I probably wont even need it if I do a top plate since my front bumper is a good 20# less than the ARB.

tommudd · **Posted:** Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:02 pm

You have the HDs don't you jsc? You should be fine or just get one of the top plates and throw on top easier than breaking down the springs again, don't even have to pull the spring all the way out. I can mail you the pattern if you want to make one as well

tonycrd · **Posted:** Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:08 pm

Sorry to make you doubt JSC, but making your spring 'stronger' also makes it less comfortable...

If you get the Rusty's you do have to have a drill....

jsc7002 · **Posted:** Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:19 pm

tommudd wrote:

You have the HDs don't you jsc? You should be fine or just get one of the top plates and throw on top easier than breaking down the springs again, don't even have to pull the spring all the way out. I can mail you the pattern if you want to make one as well

Of course I have the HDs I listened to you Tom!

Thanks for the offer though, I still have the copy you already sent me, I just need to get around off my lazy bum and make it.

tommudd · **Posted:** Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:39 pm

jsc7002 wrote:

tommudd wrote:

You have the HDs don't you jsc? You should be fine or just get one of the top plates and throw on top easier than breaking down the springs again, don't even have to pull the spring all the way out. I can mail you the pattern if you want to make one as well

Of course I have the HDs I listened to you Tom!

Thanks for the offer though, I still have the copy you already sent me, I just need to get around off my lazy bum and make it.

Thats right I did send a copy to you, so yes get off your lazy behind and make some ...jeeeeezzzzz :roll:

0311_DoC · **Posted:** Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:17 pm

0311_DoC wrote:

KJ kyle wrote:

well what are you working with now?

I have the Franky premium II, but I also have a CRD and a Trail Ready bumper at 110# plus a M8000 winch I just need a lil push to get er back up a tad.

got this from JBA: http://jeepinbyal.com/prod-JBA_Spring_Ring-589.aspx

It puts more pressure on the spring for compensating for the heavy bumper.

I spent most of my time in January 08 re engineering the 4 inch strut, we made a new strut tower mount with 5 spring settings. (4 spacer rings can go between the spring and strut mount.)

Setting

1. 4” lift base line 22.50 inches from center line of axle to under side of fender flare

2. 1 ring = 176.7 lbs of force over base

3. 2 rings = 353.4 lbs of force over base (CRD)

4. 3 rings = 530.1 lbs of force over base

5. 4 rings = 706.8 lbs of force over base

Examples:

§ If you have skid plates and a ARB bumper, you would use the #2 setting on the tower

§ If you have a CRD, you would use the #3 setting on the tower

§ If you have a CRD, Skid plates and a ARB you would use #4

This system gives you the owner the ability to customize your ride height, compensating for the extra weight you added to the front of your KJ.

I still need to figure out how to get my front end up a tad. Tom I sent you 2 PM's did you ever get them? you asked me for measurements....

tommudd · **Posted:** Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:22 pm

just saw this and don't think I did get them, will go back and check

0311_DoC · **Posted:** Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:17 pm

tommudd wrote:

just saw this and don't think I did get them, will go back and check

did you get the messages? if not all i said was the measurement was 20" and change where the rear was 21" and change. I just wanna know what options I have to bump her up a tad in the front. is there some plate or isolator or clevis or what ever to put in there? my CV angles are strait etc.

tommudd · **Posted:** Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:07 pm

Have to see what some other CRD owners are at, I'm at 22.5 plus but gas and we can go a little higher

1996xj · **Posted:** Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:22 pm

Tom, are you 22.5 (center of rim to bottem of flair) front and rear???

If so, is that aprox 3 inch or 3.5 of lift??????

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:03 pm

tonycrd wrote:

Just a thought:

What is the benefit of fitting Daystar extended topplates to an OME setup?

Imo spring lenght (with the cars weight on it) will be the same as with stock top plates...

All the top-plate does now is push the shock down / in?

You do gain more droop this way....but do I want that much droop...

When All J's was coming up with the Franken lift they found that adding a .75in spacer inside of the coil over along with the OME HD spring they had way to much pre-tension inside of the coil over. The Daystar upper plate allows the .75in spacer to be added with the OME HD spring without too much pre-tension being in the coil over assembly. This also allows the upper A-Arm to contact the spring which is why All J's added the bump stop for the upper arm.

The Daystar place will not add any lift other than the little bit you get since that upper place is thicker.

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