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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:00 pm 
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i wanted yellow lights.. and now i have them :) bought off ebay a few days ago and they are already here... and freshly installed :) pictures to follow when it's dark outside.

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i wanted yellow lights.. and now i have them :) bought off ebay a few days ago and they are already here... and freshly installed :) pictures to follow when it's dark outside.



Yeah!!

If you bought them from the guy I showed you, that guy ships FAST

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 Post subject: Re: want yellow lights
PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:41 pm 
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these are AWESOME! they are very very yellow.. and bright. it's hard to capture on camera but i did my best. check it out!

all the shots are with low beams on (silvania silverstars) they are bright!

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Nice 8) I told you that you would like them :P And they are near impossible to photograph how bright they are...

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 Post subject: Re: want yellow lights
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Maybe next time think of HID conversion kits?
On e-bay for about $70.00 US. its a Canadaian
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:31 am 
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ZERO6 wrote:
Maybe next time think of HID conversion kits?
On e-bay for about $70.00 US. its a Canadaian
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:2cents:


No matter what anyone tells you, HID conversion kits will always give you improper beam patterns, reduced distance visibility, backdazzle, and bad glare for oncoming drivers and are illegal (in the US, every EU country, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Hong Kong and almost every other industrialized country). The only way to change over to HIDs properly is to actually replace the entire headlamp unit with one designed for HIDs.

Incandescent bulbs have a different focal point and photometric characteristics than HID bulbs, and thus require very differently designed light housings.

You may have read on vendors websites that it's now legal to do an HID conversion in the US, but they're leaving off the second half of that statement. It's legal to do an HID conversion in the US IF the beam pattern does not change from the original factory beam pattern. Due to the laws of physics, this is impossible using the original light housing and always will be, with no exceptions.

If you don't want to take my word for it, or if you're just curious about the whole issue read here: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html.

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 Post subject: Re: want yellow lights
PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:42 pm 
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Well I like em, the police up here like em only
because it lights up their gear real nice..
I personally think ya maybe the pattern ain't there,
maybe it is, a lot of people have tested them and many others
have not, see where I'm going.
Like I said earlier, :2cents:

I never heard its Illegal ever, maybe down where
you are but not here, and I cross day or night
3 time a week into the US, never ever, ever
has the border,customs or the local sheriff,state
and or county police ever, and I mean ever said, hey
turn those lights off, ever! I have been stopped once
at a Dunkin donut and complimented on them," by police"
and few weeks go by, hey where'd you get those? again by
"police" cause they'd look good on my Libby...
So ah, ya...


:evil: or you personally don't like them which is fine, but don't tell me
there illegal....

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 Post subject: Re: want yellow lights
PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:19 pm 
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so would the idea with yellow fogs be to only have the parking lights and yellow fog lights on during heavy fog or snow, leaving the actual headlights off to reduce reflection? Is that actually legal? I guess maybe if its that snowy or foggy, anything to get you through is the best bet.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:39 pm 
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so would the idea with yellow fogs be to only have the parking lights and yellow fog lights on during heavy fog or snow, leaving the actual headlights off to reduce reflection? Is that actually legal? I guess maybe if its that snowy or foggy, anything to get you through is the best bet.


Actually still running your headlights but with the fogs on helps a lot since the fogs go through the fog and also sort of under so you can see the road surface better. They do help a lot for sure

There has been a whole great discussion on lights etc over on Expedition Portal with REAL FACTs not just well I get away with running such and such a light

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ZERO6 wrote:
Well I like em, the police up here like em only
because it lights up their gear real nice..
I personally think ya maybe the pattern ain't there,
maybe it is, a lot of people have tested them and many others
have not, see where I'm going.
Like I said earlier, :2cents:

I never heard its Illegal ever, maybe down where
you are but not here, and I cross day or night
3 time a week into the US, never ever, ever
has the border,customs or the local sheriff,state
and or county police ever, and I mean ever said, hey
turn those lights off, ever! I have been stopped once
at a Dunkin donut and complimented on them," by police"
and few weeks go by, hey where'd you get those? again by
"police" cause they'd look good on my Libby...
So ah, ya...


:evil: or you personally don't like them which is fine, but don't tell me
there illegal....



I have tinted tail lights..... OFF ROAD USE ONLY.... Just because I haven't gotten a ticket for them yet Doesn't mean they are NOT ILLEGAL...
I was also searching through another forum and a cop said that he has pulled over vehicles for the HID conversion.... NO FILAMENT in a HALOGEN BULB = ILLEGAL!

Read through this....
http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/s ... hp?t=36717

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 Post subject: Re: want yellow lights
PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:43 pm 
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but don't tell me
there illegal....



ah, guess what they are illegal with what could be a 10,000 dollar fine!

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 Post subject: Re: want yellow lights
PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:57 pm 
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Wow, read, can't believe it.
But its true 10 grand max fine.
See not to old to learn new tricks.

:mrgreen:

for now, they stay, they burn out.
Sylvania Silver stars, same price, basically.

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(end hi-jack) :D

LOOKS GOOD ALEX! 8) Do you have any daytime pics? Did they turn the Lenses Yellow like you wanted?

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(end hi-jack) :D

LOOKS GOOD ALEX! 8) Do you have any daytime pics? Did they turn the Lenses Yellow like you wanted?



naa.. cant ever tell they are in there during the day. i'm not at all disappointed though.. sure are yellow when they are on!

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ZERO6 wrote:
Well I like em, the police up here like em only
because it lights up their gear real nice..
I personally think ya maybe the pattern ain't there,
maybe it is, a lot of people have tested them and many others
have not, see where I'm going.
Like I said earlier, :2cents:

I never heard its Illegal ever, maybe down where
you are but not here, and I cross day or night
3 time a week into the US, never ever, ever
has the border,customs or the local sheriff,state
and or county police ever, and I mean ever said, hey
turn those lights off, ever! I have been stopped once
at a Dunkin donut and complimented on them," by police"
and few weeks go by, hey where'd you get those? again by
"police" cause they'd look good on my Libby...
So ah, ya...


:evil: or you personally don't like them which is fine, but don't tell me
there illegal....


No need to make this personal. ;) Whether I like or do not like HID conversion kits is irrelevant. They certainly are illegal, however, and I have included links below from the relevant regulatory bodies.

US (NHTSA):
FMVSS No. 108 (Section S7.7 applies here): http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2004/octqtr/49cfr571.108.htm

Letters from the NHTSA to individuals regarding the legality of HID conversions:
http://isearch.nhtsa.gov/files/deetz.ztv.html
http://isearch.nhtsa.gov/files/kim.ztv.html
http://isearch.nhtsa.gov/files/Shih.3.html

Press release about crackdown on HID conversion kit manufacturers:
Quote:
NHTSA Cracks Down on Aftermarket HID Conversion Kits

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) is targeting high-intensity discharge (HID) conversion kits for enforcement actions. NHTSA has concluded that it is impossible to produce HID conversion kits (converting a halogen system to HID) that would be compliant with the federal lighting standard, Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) No. 108. The noncompliant kits frequently include a HID bulb, a ballast, an igniter, a relay and wiring harness adapters. The NHTSA believes this equipment presents a safety risk to the public since the kits can be expected to produce excessive glare to oncoming motorists. In one investigation, the NHTSA found that an HID conversion headlamp exceeded the maximum allowable candlepower by over 800%.

Under FMVSS No. 108 Section S7.7 (replaceable light sources), each replaceable light source for headlamps must be designed to conform to the dimensions and electrical specifications for the headlamp source it is intended to replace. For example, if an HID kit is marketed as replacing an H1 light source, then it must match the H1's wire coil filament size and location, the electrical connector size and location and the ballast design for use with an H1 light source (which is impossible since there is no ballast). Consequently, companies that are manufacturing HID light sources (e.g., D1S, D1R, D2S, D2R, 9500, etc�) with incandescent light source bases (e.g., H1, H3, H7, H8, H9, H11, H13, HB1, HB2, HB3, HB4, HB5, etc�) should be aware that this light source design would not be one that conforms to FMVSS No. 108, and could not be imported and sold in the United States without violating Federal law. (The importer is treated as the manufacturer and subject to the same fines and penalties that apply to a domestic manufacturer.)

NHTSA has also determined that a commonly used disclaimer "for off-road use only" has no legal meaning and is not recognized by the agency as the manufacturer, importer and retailer are not in a position to control use once a product has been sold. Any equipment offered for sale which is covered by FMVSS No. 108 (headlamps, taillamps, side markers, etc.) must comply with the standard.


Canada:
CMVSS C1038, Schedule IV, Section 108: http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/acts-regulations/regulations-crc-c1038-sch-iv-108.htm

Unfortunately the Canadian gov website is even worse than the NHTSA site so I was unable to find any other links relating to Canadian laws. Suffice it to say that they are illegal there for the same reasons they are illegal in the US and Europe.

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And to stop from being completely off topic, the yellow lights look great. You'll have to let us know if you notice a difference in foggy conditions!

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We all ready went through that..... :roll: He said He believes us.....

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03CDKJ wrote:
We all ready went through that..... :roll: He said He believes us.....


Sorry, started typing that post this morning before anyone had responded and then got stuck in meetings all day before I had a chance to hit post!

That's what I get for posting on LOST at work I guess! ;)

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I run yellow tinted bulbs in my fogs also...

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I ran Nokya Hyper Yellows for a year and a half before one blew out a few weeks ago. They were $25-$30 though.

I purchased my new ones from www.autolumination.com for $14.

The 3000K-3500K All Weathers...
http://autolumination.com/headlights.htm

They have been very good so far and everything I have purchased from autolumination has been good quality.

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