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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:54 pm 
Just an FYI: You can not fit all 3 items in the rear - rear tow hook & rear hitch & rear skid plate does not work. Mine came with the rear hitch and I installed the rear skid plate so I've got 2 of the 3.


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Good point Alljeep. My understanding is that you can't have the rear hitch AND rear tow hook (regardless of skids). It's one or the other. I certainly wasn't planning on replacing my factory tow hitch with a little hook. For recovery, I'm going to get one of those receiver shackles like you have.

Your comment brings an interesting thought to mind. Perhaps I should add front and rear tow hooks to the shopping list. Most people looking for Mopar skids might also be looking for Mopar hooks. Protection and recovery are the first logical upgrades to any off-road vehicle...right?

Here's the listing from Mopar.com. I know we can find these cheaper somewhere...
82206124 - Black, front, 5,000-lb capacity, set of 2 - $99.00
82206125 - Black, rear, single hook, for use without Hitch Receiver only, 5,000-lb capacity - $79.00

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Good point Alljeep. My understanding is that you can't have the rear hitch AND rear tow hook (regardless of skids). It's one or the other. I certainly wasn't planning on replacing my factory tow hitch with a little hook. For recovery, I'm going to get one of those receiver shackles like you have.

Your comment brings an interesting thought to mind. Perhaps I should add front and rear tow hooks to the shopping list. Most people looking for Mopar skids might also be looking for Mopar hooks. Protection and recovery are the first logical upgrades to any off-road vehicle...right?

Here's the listing from Mopar.com. I know we can find these cheaper somewhere...
82206124 - Black, front, 5,000-lb capacity, set of 2 - $99.00
82206125 - Black, rear, single hook, for use without Hitch Receiver only, 5,000-lb capacity - $79.00


This is so cool because I've just been through all of this skid thought process. Anyhow, the front mount hitch you ordered, like mine, has 6/10" thick tow loops on it that can handle every bit of 9000lb line tension load. The MOPAR front tow hooks use the same mounting place, so it's either a front hitch, or tow hooks - just like the rear hitch situation. If you remember the picture I posted somewhere, I went to Tractor Supply Co. and put some 9,200lb shackle hooks on the tow loops. Now I've got recovery points front and back AND still an open front hitch for accessories.

As for the MOPAR skids, go to jparts.com and order them online for 10 or 15 percent below price and get free shipping for orders over $75. When I ordered last year it was free shipping for orders over $200, so I got all my skids at once AND the rubber floor mats. Getting all that heavy steel shipped for free is a HUGE savings.

I would not dbout that yours and my CRD sat next to each other on the finish lot of Jeep since they were such close build dates. We both had a factory hitch, but no skid plate group. At first I thought this was bad, but I much prefer having the option of the front mount hitch with the tow loops on it!

Let me find the picture...

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Those hooks have a removeable slide bolt held on by a cotter pin. Easy 2 second install. You can get these shackle grab hooks or shackle slip hooks (with the bigger opening). My grab hooks are more intended for chain use, but a tow strap works fine with them as well. They can pivot on the tow loops and allow for a somewhat easier recovery. Plus, the force of the strap is through the entire front mount hitch, not just a factory, 3-bolt tow hook.

What do you think?

I'll help you install it if your ever up here. Maybe you can help me get the sheared bolt out of my rear differential housing - man - that was a stupid move...


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Today I was getting my oil changed so I figured that I would order the T-Case Skid while I was there. Guess what? There is a price increase. The skid now lists for $68.00. I talked em back down to $48.00 but if you are shopping you might want to stop shopping and purchase.

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AllJeep - I love the look of your front setup. I'm getting the same thing, as you mentioned....I hope. I ordered the Reese we were talking about on that other threat and then got a "Part not in production, pleas call us" email back from them. I figured I'd just missed the boat, but the woman I talked to ended up finding one in their CA warehouse. It'll take longer to get here, but she says it's the same one. I just hope it has those cool tow loops.

But I'm going to stop talking about that beautiful Reese front hitch and the Warn hangy things since I'm trying to keep this thread specifically aimed at Mopar accessories.

Good call on mentioning Jparts.com again. It's the best price I've found on the parts. The full list is being updated in the initial post of this thread along with part numbers, best prices, and best price locations. Almost all of the best prices are at Jparts.com. As a matter of fact, I need to update it now with the MOPAR tow hooks prices from jparts.com (best I've found).

Liberty - Tow Hooks-Front(2002-2006) - $84.15 - L82206124
Liberty - Tow Hooks-Rear(2002-2006) - $67.15 - L82206125

I had no idea that they had FREE SHIPPING! That's insane! I just assumed, with the weight of these things...go figure. Kinda changes my thinking. Thanks for the info!! It's too bad I don't still live in KY, I'd come up there for an install/remove-sheared-bolt party!

Thanks for the heads-up Ugg. Was that at Halls? If they're trying to charge that much for the parts, I'll get them somewhere else. Halls service has been okay for me, and sales gave me a GREAT deal on my truck, but their parts counter has left a little to be desired as far as I'm concerned.

I'll give it through the weekend. If I/we can't find better prices than jparts.com, I'm just ordering from there. Free shipping changes EVERYTHING! I'm (almost) done shopping...time to buy!

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Yepper, It was at Halls. I've never had any problems with the Parts folks, the service dept or the sales dept.

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Well, I thought I'd come full circle on this topic...

Skids - I ordered from jparts.com (which is actually Savage Dodge, Rt16, Reading, PA):
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1 x Skid Plate - Transmission(2005-2006) $41.65
1 x Skid Plate-Fuel Tank(2002-2006) $97.75
1 x Skid Plate-Transfer Case(2004-2006) $41.65

Sub-Total: $181.05
Shipping: $0.00
Total: $181.05

Couldn't beat this deal with a stick. I was going to order the engine skid too and see if there really was a difference between the MOPAR one and the stock CRD engine skid, but I decided to save that $42 and scrape this one up a little before replacing it.

Rock rails - Carolina Rock Shop. We're doing a group buy on them and getting the cool ones with the extended rock sliders for $225. It took a lot of arm twisting, but I couldn't pass that up.

Rear recovery - I have the factory tow pkg (Class III) hitch.

Front recovery - I ordered from DrawTitehitches.com (AKA hitchfinder.com) Reese Front Mount Hitch PN65042 for $104.55.

I'm also going to add some Warn PN13047 shackles to the tow loops on the front receiver, and I'm getting a Warn PN 29312 Class III receiver bracket with a 3/4" shackle, ala Alljeep. I'll also fab/buy either Pipefactory's front receiver license plate holder, or Mozul's folding license plate holder idea. Thanks for the great ideas, picts, links, etc., etc., etc. guys!

Thanks to everyone who helped in this shopping process. Shopping for cool stuff for the Jeep kinda makes me understand why my fiancee has so much fun browsing through Nordstroms. Shopping IS fun! Who knew?

Up next? Daystar lift for my big heavy-nosed CRD. Anyone know where? How much? Which one? Maybe I should start a new thread...

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dog_party wrote:

Couldn't beat this deal with a stick. I was going to order the engine skid too and see if there really was a difference between the MOPAR one and the stock CRD engine skid, but I decided to save that $42 and scrape this one up a little before replacing it.



I can confirm that there is a huge difference between the stock CRD unit and the mopar unit. The stock unit weighs about half as much, the metal is about half as thick. They are exactly the same shape however..

Side note: I still have the CRD stock engine skid, I will give it to anyone for free if they want it? Its better than running nothing down there... (Fits non CRD's too)


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I was going to order the engine skid too and see if there really was a difference between the MOPAR one and the stock CRD engine skid, but I decided to save that $42 and scrape this one up a little before replacing it.


Don't bother, it's the EXACT same one. When I ordered my transmission skid from jparts.com, they sent the engine skid - at the time, they were unaware of a real transmission skid. I was the one that got them to update their website. While I had the engine skid, I compared it to the one on our CRD Jeeps - same one - shape anyway, I did not think to compare thickness. Jparts took it back for free and sent me the transmission skid - no additional shipping charge. :D

Did some light trail testing last night - just a couple of ruts from dump trucks through some flat dirt area. The big mound between the tire ruts was not too tall, but even with my lift, the transmission skid was making plenty of contact. Something as simple as a dirt road could destroy a transmission pan without the skid - glad to hear your getting it!


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I was going to order the engine skid too and see if there really was a difference between the MOPAR one and the stock CRD engine skid, but I decided to save that $42 and scrape this one up a little before replacing it.


Don't bother, it's the EXACT same one. When I ordered my transmission skid from jparts.com, they sent the engine skid - at the time, they were unaware of a real transmission skid. I was the one that got them to update their website. While I had the engine skid, I compared it to the one on our CRD Jeeps - same one - shape anyway, I did not think to compare thickness. Jparts took it back for free and sent me the transmission skid - no additional shipping charge. :D

Did some light trail testing last night - just a couple of ruts from dump trucks through some flat dirt area. The big mound between the tire ruts was not too tall, but even with my lift, the transmission skid was making plenty of contact. Something as simple as a dirt road could destroy a transmission pan without the skid - glad to hear your getting it!


They do indeed look exactly the same, but if you hold the 2 side by side you will see the difference... Mopar unit is much heavier and thicker.


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I was going to order the engine skid too and see if there really was a difference between the MOPAR one and the stock CRD engine skid, but I decided to save that $42 and scrape this one up a little before replacing it.


Don't bother, it's the EXACT same one. When I ordered my transmission skid from jparts.com, they sent the engine skid - at the time, they were unaware of a real transmission skid. I was the one that got them to update their website. While I had the engine skid, I compared it to the one on our CRD Jeeps - same one - shape anyway, I did not think to compare thickness. Jparts took it back for free and sent me the transmission skid - no additional shipping charge. :D

Did some light trail testing last night - just a couple of ruts from dump trucks through some flat dirt area. The big mound between the tire ruts was not too tall, but even with my lift, the transmission skid was making plenty of contact. Something as simple as a dirt road could destroy a transmission pan without the skid - glad to hear your getting it!


They do indeed look exactly the same, but if you hold the 2 side by side you will see the difference... Mopar unit is much heavier and thicker.


Strange huh? Especially since it's all MOPAR stuff anyway - just factory vs. replacement. I remember I was VERY impressed with the one I returned to jparts.


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Up next? Daystar lift for my big heavy-nosed CRD. Anyone know where? How much? Which one? Maybe I should start a new thread...


Give this thread a good read. There are a couple of good options in it. I have the Daystar WITHOUT the strut top plate. Also, look at the pictures of member W3CSX, he's got a hybrid OME rear, Daystar front with top plate lift - probably the most height we CRD guys can get.

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/vie ... php?t=4862


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alljeep wrote:
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I was going to order the engine skid too and see if there really was a difference between the MOPAR one and the stock CRD engine skid, but I decided to save that $42 and scrape this one up a little before replacing it.


Don't bother, it's the EXACT same one. When I ordered my transmission skid from jparts.com, they sent the engine skid - at the time, they were unaware of a real transmission skid. I was the one that got them to update their website. While I had the engine skid, I compared it to the one on our CRD Jeeps - same one - shape anyway, I did not think to compare thickness. Jparts took it back for free and sent me the transmission skid - no additional shipping charge. :D

Did some light trail testing last night - just a couple of ruts from dump trucks through some flat dirt area. The big mound between the tire ruts was not too tall, but even with my lift, the transmission skid was making plenty of contact. Something as simple as a dirt road could destroy a transmission pan without the skid - glad to hear your getting it!


They do indeed look exactly the same, but if you hold the 2 side by side you will see the difference... Mopar unit is much heavier and thicker.


Strange huh? Especially since it's all MOPAR stuff anyway - just factory vs. replacement. I remember I was VERY impressed with the one I returned to jparts.


Yeah, its definately strange. I assume the lightweight one is cheaper, and on the CRD a front skid is required because it holds up the sound dampening mat/tray on the bottom of the engine. Why they just didnt use the standard mopar unit I don't know. I guess the thinner one cost enough less that they went and made another part.


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At the point of production, they were probably trying to shave a little weight off the front end because it's already nose-heavy from all that CRD muscle :)

I decided, when ordering from jparts.com, that it was okay if the CRD engine skid was thinner. Trust me, I put the part in my cart, then pulled it out, then put it back in, then pulled it out. Back and forth. I'm sure the server admin was about to kick me off 'cause I had my cart full of skid plates for about 7 days and I kept changing what was in it multiple times each day.

Finally, I decided...I'm getting married, I'm moving, I need a Daystar, I don't need an extra piece of steel lying around...I'll just save those $40 for now.

Thanks for the info on the different engine plates guys. And thanks for the link to the Daystar thread Alljeep. I remembered reading it, but I couldn't remember what the thread title was.

Can't wait for my stuff to show up on my front porch!

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Hey Dog Party, I'm having my Daystar lift installed today at the local mechanic's shop. If they don't swear to hard they might be interested to doing yours.

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Hey dog party where did you see on Carolina Rock Shops site about the rails? From your description it sounds like it might be something I would want but I didnt see them on the site. I want something stronger than the mopar rails but no one makes ones that are as long as theirs that I have seen. Thanks. Also the tranny skid rock road sells is actually made by skid row, fyi.

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Ugg - ....hmmm...might be interested in that. I'm going to be garageless for probably the rest of the year since I'm selling my house and moving into my finacee's duplex after we get married. Putting a lift on in a shop would certainly make it nicer than laying in a sandy driveway next to the beach. I'll hook up with you after I get the lift stuff purchased and shipped.

DispatchedKJ - Go to the Carolina LOST section to learn all you care to know about the CRS Rock Rails. The main CRS thread[ asks and answers all the questions is took me to decide to buy them. They're wanting payment now though, so better hurry if you wanna get in on this. We could find someone to ship them to you...probably be in the $40-$60 range for shipping, but that's a wild hairy guess (shrug). Unless you can drive up to Charlotte on April 1st and get them installed.

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Ugg - ....hmmm...might be interested in that. I'm going to be garageless for probably the rest of the year since I'm selling my house and moving into my finacee's duplex after we get married. Putting a lift on in a shop would certainly make it nicer than laying in a sandy driveway next to the beach. I'll hook up with you after I get the lift stuff purchased and shipped.

DispatchedKJ - Go to the Carolina LOST section to learn all you care to know about the CRS Rock Rails. The main CRS thread asks and answers all the questions is took me to decide to buy them. They're wanting payment now though, so better hurry if you wanna get in on this. We could find someone to ship them to you if you want. Maybe $40-$60 range for shipping (that's a wild hairy guess). Or you can drive up to Charlotte on April 1st and get them installed.

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Ok I just returned from my local dealer, and man are they clueless about the skid plates and mounting hardware. The parts guy was like "umm I dont know what that is" he was telling me he found the nutzert or rivet part # but not the bolts, and then he said they dont sell tools to put them in. Im so frustrated with this, I dont want to have to drill if I dont have to. anyone have any further info. I just want to cover my oil filter :evil: :evil: :evil:

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I gave them the part # provided by all of you and at the dealer it pulled up this picture which is the T-case skid.. so is # 3 the rivet? and will it work to put on my tranny plate?

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#3 is the nutzert you need. #5 is the bolt that you need from that picture. I think you need 2 nutzerts and 2 bolts for the tranny plate. There is a tool which is actually a large bolt with a sleeve on it that you use to install the nutzerts BEFORE you install your plate with the bolts. I didn't know this the first time so now I am having to re-do my tranny plate properly this week.

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