Close but no biscuit, I hope they did the rev. a and not this one.

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Just picked up my truck, and it appears the following are related (and complete on my truck): 18-009-05, 18-009-06, 18-018-05, and 18-038-05. So I am fairly sure they performed the correct work.

I also had 21-016-05 done for the tranny filter. I only work about 2 miles from the dealer, but initial perception is a major reduction in turbo lag when the engine is cold. Will have to drive more to see if it is wishful thinking. I also just installed the Magnaflow 15870 muffler which is probably helping as well. I am very relieved and hope this resolves the issues.

Oh yes, I checked under the hood, and the sticker is there and fully complete.

Add: Drive home was perfect, but will wait until morning to see if all issues resolved. Usually the worst when cold.

I guess my comment somewhere in a previous post also applies for customers. Respect is earned. Armed with your post here and there about our airboxes, I went in today to Grubbs in Bedford, Tx for the TSB. Got the tsb-what a wonderful new feeling. I believe I can quit following retmil46's good idea then of always locking out od under 55. Without a blink of an eye, asked about my broken airbox since brand new-it's on order. I don't even mind drivng to this dealership-my local one not my purchase dealership(which I should never have to see again).

I need to find someplace to install kyb's up front soon and while they disassemble the lower ball joints to do that I might as well have new moog's installed.

Glad it's being taken care of. Strike up another one for the good guys.

You should try doing WOT acceleration, aka the "Italian Tuneup", now with the TSB's done. Did mine today, first time in about a month or so. Big cloud of black soot that would have done a Dodge Cummins proud, turbo kicked in almost immediately with a vengeance, and the tranny zipped seamlessly thru the gears in a rapid climb to 70 mph. Romped on it again a few miles down the road, no evidence of any more soot. Gotta love having a straight-thru muffler.

By all rights, a vehicle that can perform like this and is this much fun to drive should be illegal, immoral, or fattening.

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Mitchell Oates
'87 MB 300D Diamond Blue Metallic
'87 MB 300D - R.I.P. 12/08
'05 Sport CRD Stone White
Provent CCV Filter/AT2525 Muffler
Stanadyne 30 u/Cat 2 u Fuel Filters
Fumoto Drain/Fleetguard LF3487 Oil filter
V6 Airbox/Amsoil EAA Air Filter
Suncoast TC/Shift Kit/Aux Cooler
Kennedy Lift Pump/Return Fuel Cooler

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91 MB 300D 2.5L Turbo. Her's

05 MB E320 CDI. Mine

During the drive to work this morning I noticed a few changes with the updates. Turbo lag is completely gone. Reverse kicks in immediately, even when 18 outside. Unfortunately, I still have a tranny studder, but it seems to have moved up a couple mph. It used to be at 52-54 and is now at 54-56. Overall I'd say it drives 50-75% better, but still not resolved.

While reading my ticket from the dealer, it reads "performed all available updates to power train control module to help cure. There are no transmission updates available at this time." Does this sound correct??

Also, I got a copy of TSB 18-009-06 from the dealer. I can scan as a .pdf file, but I am not sure how to attach it. Can also e-mail it to people, just let me know.

While on the subject of TSB's, it might be useful to note that by comparison, the CRD has had relatively few and relatively minor compared to other first year vehicles, gas or diesel.

For instance, a friend at work let me look thru the April issue of Petersen's 4X4 magazine. They had a half-page blurb on the problems experienced with the Powerstroke diesels in '03 and '04 Ford pickups, when they switched over to a new engine design.

JUST ON THE ENGINE ALONE, the number of customer complaints was well into the thousands, and Ford has issued over FOUR HUNDRED TSB's trying to fix the engine. 400 TSB's in 2 years on just the engine itself. In the same period, GM issued 8 TSB's on the Duramax engine, and DC didn't have to issue any on the Cummins.

Kind of makes what we're going thru pale by comparison.

Given that experience, I can see why many feel that Fords have earned the nickname "PowerJoke".

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Mitchell Oates
'87 MB 300D Diamond Blue Metallic
'87 MB 300D - R.I.P. 12/08
'05 Sport CRD Stone White
Provent CCV Filter/AT2525 Muffler
Stanadyne 30 u/Cat 2 u Fuel Filters
Fumoto Drain/Fleetguard LF3487 Oil filter
V6 Airbox/Amsoil EAA Air Filter
Suncoast TC/Shift Kit/Aux Cooler
Kennedy Lift Pump/Return Fuel Cooler

This sounds like caribou1 blow the snots out. I did it a couple of times then saw a post from what appeared to be a knowledgeable diesel person about not wot'ing an unloaded diesel. Also doesn't black smoke mean incomplete burning. Is it really true we can clean up the soot from the engine and entire exhaust system by a wot unloaded burst or two.

My ticket/invoice specifically references each TSB performed. I have noticed the same improvements as you. One strange thing though... it takes longer to crank the engine over from a cold start now. Maybe this is the improved durability of the glow plug part of the TSB? Yesterday after work in the cold it took a full 5 seconds to fire up when turning the ignition key, after the glow plug lights had gone out. It used to be just a split second of turning the key.

This morning in a warm garage it took about 2 full seconds of key turn to start, used to be instant.

I know on our old Porsche the start was intentially delayed like you described and the reason was to get the oil to engine parts before starting. It gives the oil pump a few turns to build oil pressure before starting to minimize motor wear on start up, as most engine wear is on start up.

Maybe thats the "durablity" part...
If the motor cranks for a full 5 seconds before starting you can be pretty sure full oil pressure has built up by the time it actually starts, Thats not a bad thing in my book. but still, 5 seconds seem a little too long...

I sure wish we could find out what the changes exactly were... We need a buddy on the inside

I did notice it took longer to start this morning, but didn't pay much attention to it. Did this update resolve anyone's tranny studdering issue?

Update: Just spoke to the dealer, and they re-confirmed all available updates were performed. They are not sure what else to do, as everything mechanically checked out.

By the way, figured out how to post page 1 of TSB, 2 and 3 are procedure only. I hope this ok to do...

I have never really been able to identify the studdering issue. Some people with pre-May '05 build dates had very violent jerking from the transmission that was solved by a prior TSB.

If it's minor, or suttle, movement in the tranny I have not paid attention to it. There will always be some when a transmission is close to the final lockup/unlock point for the torque converter.

This morning in a warm garage it only took one full second to start. Maybe it's just re-learning something in the ECM after the TSB flash. I don't know if it's because my mileage is now at 7,400 miles and am getting broken in, or because of this latest TSB reflash, but my KJ seems really dialed in now!

Very fast and VERY strong and clean shifting!

Mine was still a bit slow to start when cold this morning, but it's nothing major. The turbo lag is completely gone! That in itself is amazing. Now if I can only resolve my 18.5 mpg issue and the transmission issue I'll be set!

Not sure why, I may have gotten a bad tank of diesel. There is a truck stop not too far from here that sells decent quality fuel. I'll try there and see if the mileage improves.

I'm leaving work early today to install my Daystar lift, the 1.5/2 that you and LibertyCRD have.

Just for point of reference - the lift is going to hurt your fuel economy a little. (No formula as to how much - and probably only noticable at highway speeds)

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Changing tires to a larger size also can really knock your mpg's into the crapper.

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91 MB 300D 2.5L Turbo. Her's

05 MB E320 CDI. Mine

It will affect it in a major way on a gasser, and I thought it would on my little CRD, but after adding p255/70r16 Revos and a 2.0 inch lift and a whole crap load of armour I'm still averaging the same as when I first bought it. I can always get 24.5mpg on mostly highway driving.

Maybe I'm just not getting the benefit of better mileage after engine break in.

My turbo lag has also disappeared. This thing is a rocket!!!

If those tires are the same overall height then there will very little effect, however 1/2" difference can change your odometer reading 3% to 6% , thus having the same effect on your mpg figures. My tires on my Magnum are 60's verses 65 series OEM and that gives me about 3.5% error with speedometer reading fast and of course adding 3% error to the tripmeter, there by causing me to adjust my figured mpg's by 3.5 % also. If I went to taller tires (75 series), then it will have the obsite effect I described in the previous sentence.

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91 MB 300D 2.5L Turbo. Her's

05 MB E320 CDI. Mine

Last friday I called a local dealership and explained the updates. They asked me to bring in a copy of the updates and set an appointment for immediate service. Performed the updates on the engine control module and found that the TCM would not take the updates. Ordered the new part, installed it, no questions asked. No charge, no issues, no problems. It was one of the better experiences I have had at that dealership.

Clint