A liberty with 33's

jerbacher · **Posted:** Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:14 pm

this one is awesome

i really want to see the suspension under this thing! im so curious!!

i think there was liberty on cardomain that swampthg referenced that had a similar setup. but, i cant seem to find it now....

jerbacher · **Posted:** Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:18 pm

ah ha!

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2678432

amazing how quickly i forget stuff that ive posted myself.... :roll:

Christopher · **Posted:** Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:26 pm

nice find. Anyone on here running this setup?

Chris

kj in a tight spot · **Posted:** Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:29 pm

LiLredLibby wrote:

And if you all would take a minute to look at his Cardomain page you'll see that he does wheel it a little.We don't have the extreme terrain here as they have out in moab,so I'm sure this Jeep will do just fine in our part of the world

I hardly call a bunch of poser shots in a shallow creek or on some grass "wheelin" no matter where you live. Granted each state got their own type of wheelin but there is trails in every state that are full of rocks or obstacles, notches, etc. so this is no excuse...and thats the whole point of all the other posts questionin the setup...if you put the time and effort into tryin to make the KJ run on 33s then why in the hell would you just pose with it on curbs and in grass :roll:

Thats why, people wanna see it wheel real trails and not break somethin...

LiLredLibby · **Posted:** Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:47 pm

Well Brian.....Just tell me you think it looks good so I don't have to call you jealous.

Not everyone wants to do trails so tuff that they break somethin'........something like...."To each his own". :lol:

Ron

kj in a tight spot · **Posted:** Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:55 pm

LiLredLibby wrote:

Well Brian.....Just tell me you think it looks good so I don't have to call you jealous.

Not everyone wants to do trails so tuff that they break somethin'........something like...."To each his own". :lol:

Ron

Its a good attempt to make the KJ a little bit more badass

To each his own yes Ron

marty · **Posted:** Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:55 pm

That thing looks like it would turn like an Oceanliner.

Sport · **Posted:** Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:30 am

LiLredLibby wrote:

I just don't get it.So why is it that when Al does a 5.5" lift you all think he's Superman,but when one of my neighbors does it,you all are lookin' for ways to discredit his knoweledge?And if you all would take a minute to look at his Cardomain page you'll see that he does wheel it a little.We don't have the extreme terrain here as they have out in moab,so I'm sure this Jeep will do just fine in our part of the world.As far as it being a pig,I can't speak for him,but I'm runnin' nearly 32" tires,and my KJ still has plenty of balls.IIRC meh_kick first seen this Jeep at a local Skyline Chili so covered with mud that he had to look twice to make sure it was a Liberty.He then invited the person to visit L.O.S.T.,but after just one post,we have'nt heard from him again.(Correct me if I'm wrong Mitch).If I were guessing,Id say that "Swampthing"is not a big fan of spectulation.

Ron

I don't think anyone is trying to discredit him, I think the jeep looks bad stupid. He states that his lift is a combo rusty's spring and spacer, now we all know that on most liberties this would spell instant destruction probably even on everyday driving conditions. So we are curious as to what else he might have done that would make that sort of lift work better and with not much else to go by other then the combo lift all we can do is speculate.

BTW, I will be the first to say that I don't wheel my jeep. Not yet anyway, I am getting there. I still owe alot of money and I don't want to scratch her! lol, but I will still mod it. Don't know why I just like it, I will definitely wheel it one day. I beach it often enough, does that count?

Rock Lizard · **Posted:** Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:58 am

LiLredLibby wrote:

I just don't get it.So why is it that when Al does a 5.5" lift you all think he's Superman,but when one of my neighbors does it,you all are lookin' for ways to discredit his knoweledge?

Not a lot to look for, he is running Thornbirds. Dead giveaway.

BeepBeepJeepJeep · **Posted:** Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:37 am

Rock Lizard wrote:

LiLredLibby wrote:

I just don't get it.So why is it that when Al does a 5.5" lift you all think he's Superman,but when one of my neighbors does it,you all are lookin' for ways to discredit his knoweledge?

Not a lot to look for, he is running Thornbirds. Dead giveaway.

tommudd · **Posted:** Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:21 am

To some of the posts above.....we would all just like to see what has been done. As far as Jeepin Al goes, he posted on here all the time with what worked and what didnt work. We walked through everything he was going through with him sort of. We have also seen kits from manufacturers that were suppose to be the next greatest thing for Libertys turn out to be a pile crap! Plus as far as being covered in mud/dirt I have seen Cavaliers as dirty as his pictures so still doesnt prove anything. I would just like to see some pictures of his set up thats all!
As far as being a pig, well I know what mine runs like down in the hills, up here in the flat lands of Ohio ( which I hate) its does great, Also after owning 17 different 4WDs over the years with everything from 6 poppers to full blown V8s putting on a tire that much difference does take away a bunch of power to to how tall, wide and heavy.

Fulltimer · **Posted:** Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:28 am

Has anyone tried to e-mail him with these questions?

Terry

kj in a tight spot · **Posted:** Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:38 pm

Rock Lizard wrote:

LiLredLibby wrote:

I just don't get it.So why is it that when Al does a 5.5" lift you all think he's Superman,but when one of my neighbors does it,you all are lookin' for ways to discredit his knoweledge?

Not a lot to look for, he is running Thornbirds. Dead giveaway.

x2 I was gonna mention that in my original post :roll:

XJMA · **Posted:** Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:16 am

Here's a piece of lift advice for y'all:

Don't do what the guy running thornturds did. He bought thornturds.

Also, 33s are no problem for an 8.25. The IFS I would be worried about.

CD · **Posted:** Sun Sep 30, 2007 6:41 am

Dosen't matter what you look at it, if they drive it hard or not they look great (It's all up to the owner, but I hope they drive them hard :twisted:

). How about all those petrol heads that do up old car's then leave them in the garage all week only to take them out for a sunday drive :roll:

. I can only hope that these 2 KJ's can get them every where they want to go & further. IMO it would be best if a setup like that could do A grade trails & at worst do B's. Either way they have balls to give it a go.

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kj in a tight spot

Rock Lizard wrote:
LiLredLibby wrote:
I just don't get it.So why is it that when Al does a 5.5" lift you all think he's Superman,but when one of my neighbors does it,you all are lookin' for ways to discredit his knoweledge?

Not a lot to look for, he is running Thornbirds. Dead giveaway.

x2 I was gonna mention that in my original post

I don't get it, + I've not seen Thornbirds, can you please explain

chefdab · **Posted:** Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:55 pm

I really wish this guy would come back and explain in detail how he made it work. I mean the Jeepin Al lift was supposed to be done nearly two months ago and we haven't heard any updates on it lately, so this might be another option for guys who don't want to wait anymore.

RespectMyLibertay · **Posted:** Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:22 pm

My guess is he did what quite a few of us have already done, a 2.5" coil lift and Al's a-arms, but obviously some more. As already stated, he has on top of that a 2.5" spacer lift front and rear. He definitely had to replace the brake lines, maybe he got the extended SS ones Al was selling himself before he sold the business. To keep his CVs from exploding, he probably did a cradle drop and could have found some more durable CVs. I'd be willing to bet that this is all he's done. He has the stock lower control arms front and rear. That'd be awesome if he talked well enough to Al to know exactly what he did with his front diff to fix the cracking problem, and then did it himself. Then, other than having one under-powered Jeep (he could have gone to 4.10, but still), he'd have a decent rig.

About the Thornbirds for those that don't know...
They are a really, really poor tire choice. They clog very easily, the one thing a Super Swamper shouldn't do, and perform poorly everywhere. I have no first hand experience with them, but I've read A LOT of reviews online, and they all say Thornbirds suck! Considering his license plate, he should have gone with Boggers or Trxus M/Ts. It still looks sweet, but if his rig is durable and actually usuable on the trail, he should have gone with a tire that has a better trail-record.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

kj in a tight spot · **Posted:** Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:51 pm

CDKJ wrote:

I've not seen Thornbirds, can you please explain

Thornbirds are the tires he got on that KJ. They suck, flat out :roll:

Not good for mud, rocks, street, anything!!! Seen em FUBAR themselves before....

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:00 pm

kj in a tight spot wrote:

CDKJ wrote:

I've not seen Thornbirds, can you please explain

Thornbirds are the tires he got on that KJ. They suck, flat out :roll:

Not good for mud, rocks, street, anything!!! Seen em FUBAR themselves before....

Yep,the only good thing about Thornbirds is they look good,other then that they are usless.He should have put Boggers on that thing if he has the plate with "swamp thing" on it.

CD · **Posted:** Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:11 am

tjkj2002 wrote:

kj in a tight spot wrote:

CDKJ wrote:

I've not seen Thornbirds, can you please explain

Thornbirds are the tires he got on that KJ. They suck, flat out :roll:

Not good for mud, rocks, street, anything!!! Seen em FUBAR themselves before....

Yep,the only good thing about Thornbirds is they look good,other then that they are usless.He should have put Boggers on that thing if he has the plate with "swamp thing" on it.

Thanks for clearing up the Thornbirds for me, too bad hey. As they say can't judge a book by it's cover & the cover looks good.

Personally I'd be going with smaller tyres than 33's, it looks like you loose toooo much flex in the rear (up that is) & the front is well, a bit crowded (I'd want go with 31's on that lift myself or perhaps 31.5)

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