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 Post subject: Ride quality with 2.5" lift
PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:19 pm 
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Hey there all,

I'm a newbie, just bought a Lib CRD and want to put bigger tires and wheels on. Looking around, however I found that I don't have many choses. Unless of course I lift the truck... I'm not planning on doing any "real" 4x4in so I really don't need or want the lift.

My question to you, is... Has your ride quality suffered at all by lifting your Liberty. I have read that most have experience a smoother ride over stock. But how about the stibility of your rigs? Does anyone find with the 2.5" lift that their truck is less stable at speeds? How about pulling? Has anyone experience negative effects pulling a travel trailer with a lift?

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 Post subject: Re: Ride quality with 2.5" lift
PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:15 pm 
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I think you will find that your KJ will ride better, handle way better and will be more fun to drive.
No ill effects driving, pulling a load or anything

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 Post subject: Re: Ride quality with 2.5" lift
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plus people look at ya funny. May even snap a couple necks

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 Post subject: Re: Ride quality with 2.5" lift
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I have to say that mine rides a heck of a lots better with 2.5" OME HD Springs. I would assume you would get similar results on a CRD with the OME 790 CRD springs. Less body roll. And overall better ride.

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 Post subject: Re: Ride quality with 2.5" lift
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The ride will blow you away. :JEEPIN: Well worth it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:03 am 
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stumpjumper_09 wrote:
plus people look at ya funny. May even snap a couple necks

shoot i have i dont know for the right reason though i kinda like to show off my exuast and cold air :goink:

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 Post subject: Re: Ride quality with 2.5" lift
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but yea it so much nicer with a lift befor i got my jeep i tested a stock and mine 2.5 lift the ride comfort and steering is so much better with a lift and also mines a crappy spacer lift i have come to find out

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It looks a hell of a lot more proportional with the lift too...do it.

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Thanks for all the input!

Your right, I forgot about the "show off" factor. :ROTFL:

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Which coils ride better? OME or BDS?

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 Post subject: Re: Ride quality with 2.5" lift
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The only drawback I have noticed is this:

With 2.5" of lift in the front...in order to align the Jeep properly the shop has to adjust the arms a significant amount. This causes the steering response to be altered greatly in a negative fashion. The steering is much more "touchy" now than it was before....to the point that I have to be very cautious not to jerk the wheel on the Interstate. Even small inputs to the steering wheel make large motions in the direction of the Jeep now. This could be dangerous if someone is driving that is not experienced in the Jeep world, or for anyone driving on slick roadways. Use caution.

So, the handling is worse. But the ride quality is still nice.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:02 am 
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LibertyCRD wrote:
The only drawback I have noticed is this:

With 2.5" of lift in the front...in order to align the Jeep properly the shop has to adjust the arms a significant amount. This causes the steering response to be altered greatly in a negative fashion. The steering is much more "touchy" now than it was before....to the point that I have to be very cautious not to jerk the wheel on the Interstate. Even small inputs to the steering wheel make large motions in the direction of the Jeep now. This could be dangerous if someone is driving that is not experienced in the Jeep world, or for anyone driving on slick roadways. Use caution.

So, the handling is worse. But the ride quality is still nice.

i disagree i think it is maybe a tiny bit more touchy but its way better handling overall

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:25 am 
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LibertyCRD wrote:
The only drawback I have noticed is this:

With 2.5" of lift in the front...in order to align the Jeep properly the shop has to adjust the arms a significant amount. This causes the steering response to be altered greatly in a negative fashion. The steering is much more "touchy" now than it was before....to the point that I have to be very cautious not to jerk the wheel on the Interstate. Even small inputs to the steering wheel make large motions in the direction of the Jeep now. This could be dangerous if someone is driving that is not experienced in the Jeep world, or for anyone driving on slick roadways. Use caution.

So, the handling is worse. But the ride quality is still nice.

Are you sure its aligned properly. It will do that with the alignment being off but should not be noticeable if aligned correctly.
Over 110,000 miles lifted and never had that as an issue

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tommudd wrote:
LibertyCRD wrote:
The only drawback I have noticed is this:

With 2.5" of lift in the front...in order to align the Jeep properly the shop has to adjust the arms a significant amount. This causes the steering response to be altered greatly in a negative fashion. The steering is much more "touchy" now than it was before....to the point that I have to be very cautious not to jerk the wheel on the Interstate. Even small inputs to the steering wheel make large motions in the direction of the Jeep now. This could be dangerous if someone is driving that is not experienced in the Jeep world, or for anyone driving on slick roadways. Use caution.

So, the handling is worse. But the ride quality is still nice.

Are you sure its aligned properly. It will do that with the alignment being off but should not be noticeable if aligned correctly.
Over 110,000 miles lifted and never had that as an issue


Yes. I watched myself as he did the alignment and all his adjustments were in spec. They also were using a brand new, top of the line alignment machine. This tire shop was built a few months ago and they have all new stuff.

Now, the front wheels "feel" like they are pushed out farther away from the steering wheel, which is confirmed by the fact that I don't rub the pinch weld at all anymore. This has caused a severe loss of the comfortable consistency in motion with steering. Like I said, when I turn the wheel, the Jeep reacts more sharply now.

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long_tall_texan wrote:
I have to say that mine rides a heck of a lots better with 2.5" OME HD Springs. I would assume you would get similar results on a CRD with the OME 790 CRD springs. Less body roll. And overall better ride.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:21 pm 
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LibertyCRD wrote:
tommudd wrote:
LibertyCRD wrote:
The only drawback I have noticed is this:

With 2.5" of lift in the front...in order to align the Jeep properly the shop has to adjust the arms a significant amount. This causes the steering response to be altered greatly in a negative fashion. The steering is much more "touchy" now than it was before....to the point that I have to be very cautious not to jerk the wheel on the Interstate. Even small inputs to the steering wheel make large motions in the direction of the Jeep now. This could be dangerous if someone is driving that is not experienced in the Jeep world, or for anyone driving on slick roadways. Use caution.

So, the handling is worse. But the ride quality is still nice.

Are you sure its aligned properly. It will do that with the alignment being off but should not be noticeable if aligned correctly.
Over 110,000 miles lifted and never had that as an issue


Yes. I watched myself as he did the alignment and all his adjustments were in spec. They also were using a brand new, top of the line alignment machine. This tire shop was built a few months ago and they have all new stuff.

Now, the front wheels "feel" like they are pushed out farther away from the steering wheel, which is confirmed by the fact that I don't rub the pinch weld at all anymore. This has caused a severe loss of the comfortable consistency in motion with steering. Like I said, when I turn the wheel, the Jeep reacts more sharply now.



I have just over 4" of lift in mine and I would have to say I have no Idea what your talking about. The only negative that I have is that the steering wheel does not return to center as quickly after making a turn because the caster is so far out.

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